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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    Sure but the average person (voter) is keeping his eye on the price of gas.

    That's what you're up against, IMHO.
    Well, I'm not really up against it, really, at my age. I worry about my descendants, though. I will say that this is the first president in my memory who is not a shoo-in with an overheated economy. It's a real anomaly...
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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Well, I'm not really up against it, really, at my age. I worry about my descendants, though. I will say that this is the first president in my memory who is not a shoo-in with an overheated economy. It's a real anomaly...

    "You" was meant in the third party sense.

    Agree with the uncertainty.
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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    To answer the original question, please consult the “squad”.

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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamamc1 View Post
    To answer the original question, please consult the “squad”.
    This was a well thought out response.
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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    So when all Dem candidates raise their hands for free healthcare for illegals you’re ok that? There are AMERICANS who don’t have healthcare. Really?

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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    This was a well thought out response.
    You have to own that. They are “the boss” according to aoc. lol

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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamamc1 View Post
    So when all Dem candidates raise their hands for free healthcare for illegals you’re ok that? There are AMERICANS who don’t have healthcare. Really?
    Which specific dem candidates have come out and when for healthcare for undocumented immigrants? Please give citations to source.
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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    Which specific dem candidates have come out and when for healthcare for undocumented immigrants? Please give citations to source.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...al-immigrants/

    It happened during the debate.

    Technically what bamamc1 said is misleading as the question was in context of “government health plans” the candidates support, under which all of them support a health care for all provision, which would mean there wouldn’t be anyone without insurance.

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    A lot of you have been talking about government health care plans you proposed in one form or another. This is a show of hands question and hold them up so people can see. Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants,” moderator Savannah Guthrie asked the ten candidates, all of whom raised their hands.
    Just a little more about the whole health care for immigrants thing. As I’ve spoken on here before, this really isn’t any different than what we have today. EMTALA already guarantees everyone healthcare, the Federal government and private insurance subscribers are already picking up the tab, but poor people just don’t have a shiny card with a policy number and the words “health insurance” on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump
    We're going to have insurance for everybody, there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us.They can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better. Source
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Source
    Can you guess which quote branded a president as a habitual liar?

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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by chanson78 View Post
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...al-immigrants/

    It happened during the debate.

    Technically what bamamc1 said is misleading as the question was in context of “government health plans” the candidates support, under which all of them support a health care for all provision, which would mean there wouldn’t be anyone without insurance.



    Just a little more about the whole health care for immigrants thing. As I’ve spoken on here before, this really isn’t any different than what we have today. EMTALA already guarantees everyone healthcare, the Federal government and private insurance subscribers are already picking up the tab, but poor people just don’t have a shiny card with a policy number and the words “health insurance” on it.
    Thank you. Most people don't understand EMTALA, why it exists, or its impact.
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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    Thank you. Most people don't understand EMTALA, why it exists, or its impact.
    It’s complex. However whenever I have someone who gets high and mighty against Health care for all, I ask them if they support repealing EMTALA. Four times out of five, they don’t know what it is. After a brief explanation, usually with requisite iPad views showing that such a thing exists, they either need more time to think, or they dig their heels in deeper, and I give up. No one brings one of the few real counterpoints and that is long term maintenance for diseases like cancer/AIDS, because under EMTALA they just treat the acute issues, not curing or chemotherapy. Which is where a ton of insurance $ go now because there isn’t nearly as much money to be made in prevention.

    That is one of the things I think the Democrats have failed miserably on. Messaging re: the fact we are already spending to take care of people based upon laws enacted in the 80’s. But like all things insurance related, it’s not sexy. No one is coming up with a pithy statement that covers the current state of health care and EMTALA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trump
    We're going to have insurance for everybody, there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us.They can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better. Source
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Source
    Can you guess which quote branded a president as a habitual liar?

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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    In case anyone is interested. This has a detailed breakdown of the EMTALA

    The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA): what it is and what it means for physicians


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    Re: What is the party platform for the Democratic Party nowadays?

    Quote Originally Posted by RollTide_HTTR View Post
    In case anyone is interested. This has a detailed breakdown of the EMTALA

    The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA): what it is and what it means for physicians

    It's amazing that it was seen as just a simple "anti-dumping" act at the time. I've told people that we already have universal healthcare for undocumented, wherever there is an ER and, like you, get a blank stare. The last time we had to use an ER was Xmas before last. My wife had a colonoscopy, and while rehydrating, started passing kidney stones, so she drank even more water. Long story short, her sodium level dropped so low, she became delirious and then dropped into a coma. Despite flu season being in full swing, and news media spreading announcements from hospitals begging the populace not to come to the ER with the flu, half the people in the ER were wearing ER-issued masks. A very large percentage were Hispanic and, I'd bet, a lot of them were probably undocumented. They are all entitled to care...
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