Politics: Is Governor Ivey Gay?

Crimson1967 said:

Not a good sign.

I always kind of liked Todd, if for no other reason she was there to annoy people who think she was sent here by Satan to destroy society. But I don’t like what she did here.


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What’s funny is I could change the name to Trump (except I don’t like him) and the post would be just as accurate as a daily musing.

I’m wary of the whole Messianic politician notion as well as the Lucifer one.

It doesn't matter to me if she is or not, none of my business. I wasn't planning on voting for her anyway. She tries too hard to be the folksy, down home, dare I say good ol boy type. Mountain oysters really? She's just too fake.

Crimson1967 said:

That is about the only thing I like about Trump, getting to watch people freak out about him. But we’d have the same situation under President Hillary Clinton.

Todd is a little different. She is a Democrat in a solid red legislature. So she doesn’t have much power.


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A conservative buddy and I discuss this all the time; I honestly don't even know if he voted because he's not exactly high on Trump. However, the one thing we DID agree with was, "Well, the next four years might be something but BORING isn't going to be one of them."

Back in 2003, we had a LT governor's race in Mississippi between a white incumbent D turned R and a black Democrat. The Democrat hauled off and accused the incumbent of having an abortion "way back when." The incumbent signed an affidavit she never had, but the mere charge wasn't exactly the wisest to make regardless, even in heavily pro-life Mississippi.

In 2014 here in Texas, we had that new poster child for abortion (Wendy Davis) win the nomination. Of course, it was worth about as much as what John Nance Garner said about the office of VP back in the 30s. But her colossal screw-up wasn't the fact she'd had two abortions (I believe at least one was medically necessary). In fact, it wasn't like it was HER making that the issue, it was the HuffPo crowd that actually believes that running on a social issue is a wise idea (hint: regardless of one's position, it isn't). Davis was likable enough and cute enough but right out of the gate she made one of the dumbest mistakes this side of Todd Akin. Early in the campaign she declared about one of Abbott's positions that he "doesn't have a leg to stand on."


Abbott is a wheelchair bound candidate.


A buddy and I discussed the fact that even if that was not planned, it was a colossal screw-up the likes of which you never come back from even if you had a chance in the first place (and in TX she didn't). It might have been an honest mistake with verbiage but - pardon my own pun - that was all she wrote.


Also in Mississippi in 1983, the weekend before the election some black trannies (I'm NOT making this up) had engaged in sex acts with Democratic candidate Bill Allain.

Allain won in a rout.

(Note: ok, I lived in Germany and it was two weeks before the election, but that's not really the point anyway).

Black trannies, divorced white dude in the 80s. He still carried 74 of 82 counties.


To this day (and Allain died the Monday after the 2013 Iron Bowl) nobody knows what the truth is or was. But it didn't matter.

However, most of the gay jokes I heard in the 1980s had something to do with Allain.

TIDE-HSV said:

Now that's interesting. How on earth do you get that?

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From the double secret committee......

selmaborntidefan said:

From the double secret committee......

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Or the UCF Democratic Caucus.

Crimson1967 said:

Were any of the black trannies midgets?

Did not know the governor of Texas uses a wheelchair.


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RTR91 said:

The board of the Florida organization that recently hired Todd is having an emergency meeting this afternoon. Link

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Her job offer was rescinded today.

Its On A Slab said:

"Early in the campaign she declared about one of Abbott's positions that he 'doesn't have a leg to stand on.'"

Well......she did have a point.

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She did, and I'm even willing to be gracious and realize that IS an expression that might not actually entail any kind of personally aimed insult. But it's still in bad taste. President Obama did something similar on Jay Leno one night when he referenced the Special Olympics......and Palin, you might recall, has a Down's syndrome baby. Much as I'm critical of Obama on policy, I think it was just an honest mistake of verbiage, and he was classy and apologized (as he should have) and she was cool with that particular thing.

I'm fine with jokes. But it's one thing for Ross Perot to say he's "all ears" but pretty sick if one of the opponents does it.

TIDE-HSV said:

Now that's interesting. How on earth do you get that?

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Empirical evidence derived from ~40 years of observations.

92tide said:

outing folks is not very nice.

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Yea. whatever happened to "Love Wins"??? Not very "Loving".....

selmaborntidefan said:

A conservative buddy and I discuss this all the time; I honestly don't even know if he voted because he's not exactly high on Trump. However, the one thing we DID agree with was, "Well, the next four years might be something but BORING isn't going to be one of them."

Back in 2003, we had a LT governor's race in Mississippi between a white incumbent D turned R and a black Democrat. The Democrat hauled off and accused the incumbent of having an abortion "way back when." The incumbent signed an affidavit she never had, but the mere charge wasn't exactly the wisest to make regardless, even in heavily pro-life Mississippi.

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Just as an aside, and perhaps apropos of nothing, but there are plenty of people who have abortions or compel others to have abortions, particularly in their youth, who later come to feel differently about their actions.

selmaborntidefan said:

In 2014 here in Texas, we had that new poster child for abortion (Wendy Davis) win the nomination. Of course, it was worth about as much as what John Nance Garner said about the office of VP back in the 30s. But her colossal screw-up wasn't the fact she'd had two abortions (I believe at least one was medically necessary). In fact, it wasn't like it was HER making that the issue, it was the HuffPo crowd that actually believes that running on a social issue is a wise idea (hint: regardless of one's position, it isn't). Davis was likable enough and cute enough but right out of the gate she made one of the dumbest mistakes this side of Todd Akin. Early in the campaign she declared about one of Abbott's positions that he "doesn't have a leg to stand on."


Abbott is a wheelchair bound candidate.


A buddy and I discussed the fact that even if that was not planned, it was a colossal screw-up the likes of which you never come back from even if you had a chance in the first place (and in TX she didn't). It might have been an honest mistake with verbiage but - pardon my own pun - that was all she wrote.

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Reminds me of the jokes (all tasteless) about Heather Mills when she was divorcing Paul McCartney.....

FWIW, I don't live in Texas and didn't follow that race at all, but isn't Davis the one they call, "Abortion Barbie"? Not sure if that came from the HuffPo, or elsewhere.....

selmaborntidefan said:

Also in Mississippi in 1983, the weekend before the election some black trannies (I'm NOT making this up) had engaged in sex acts with Democratic candidate Bill Allain.

Allain won in a rout.

(Note: ok, I lived in Germany and it was two weeks before the election, but that's not really the point anyway).

Black trannies, divorced white dude in the 80s. He still carried 74 of 82 counties.


To this day (and Allain died the Monday after the 2013 Iron Bowl) nobody knows what the truth is or was. But it didn't matter.

However, most of the gay jokes I heard in the 1980s had something to do with Allain.

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Just my observation/opinion, but I think the rank-and-file voters - not the partisans, but the large group who are generally somewhere in the middle - I think a lot of these folks have become increasingly suspicious of these sorts of "October Surprise" revelations, even if they aren't popping up literally in October.

No one seemed to care back in 2008 when it came out that Obama had been trading cocaine for gay sex back in his Chicago days. Of course, it helped that the media almost totally blacked-out the story, And that Barry was running against a cadaver.

IMO, this same suspicion of such allegations also helped roy moore keep the recent Senate race closer than most expected. Had moore not been such an awful person even before the 11th hour allegations, he may well have survived it.

TomFromBama said:

No one seemed to care back in 2008 when it came out that Obama had been trading cocaine for gay sex back in his Chicago days.

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I imagine no one cared because it was a goofy conspiracy theory.

MattinBama said:

I imagine no one cared because it was a goofy conspiracy theory.

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why must you continually make this forum so un-welcoming for people of faith.