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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamamick View Post
    Defense? It is Coach's defense. We are pitifully inexperienced in the defensive backfield, but if you are going to throw it you had better be quick about it or you will be looking up at the sky.

    I think we will see more of an up tempo passing game with us spreading the ball around more than we have been. I expect another big offensive year.

    The specialists are the wild cards. We need decent punting, deep kick offs, and reliable kicks for points. We do not need a big hole in our March to #18, and questionable special teams could do that to us.

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    With all due respect to the other posters - "Depth" and "Experience" are slightly DIFFERENT ISSUES than "Tendencies".

    On D - I agree that we've run a version of Coach Saban's defense since the day he first stepped off the plane, and I don't expect that to change as long as he's our HC. The game is NOT going to slow down, so we can expect continued emphasis on individual speed, as well as on dealing with Game Tempo. I don't see that changing, but rather continuing to develop. FWIW, nearly every year we face at least ONE unit of the Defense having to massively rebuild. Some years it's LB's, or DL, this year it's the Secondary. So we'll get burned here and there by hot QB's - but on balance we "Should" be fine overall.

    On O - IMO we've also run (to varying degrees) some version of Coach Saban's OFFENSE since the day he arrived, and I think we are going to see a more familiar style offense this year. We should see a lot more diversity in the passing game now that we are free of the handicap of the past two seasons that forced us to run 90% of the offense within a 10 yard box from the LOS. We should be a fairly balanced offense most of the time, with more emphasis on grinding against lighter or lesser defenses, and more emphasis on spreading out against better defenses. Passing to set up the run game. My HOPE is that we see the TE position return to the Offense - it's been noticeably absent. And, of course, that we see a RB leading the team in rush yards AND ATTEMPTS.....

    On Special Teams, I agree there are many "wild cards" here, and maybe it's just Wishful Thinking, but I feel like we will be (at least) serviceable in ST's. We almost certainly will take a step back in punting, but probably a step forward in FG's and KO's. Punt returns and KO coverage should be ok, if for no other reason than the talent pool we have to draw from for these units.

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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    OC - On offense I think once we establish some balance in the opener we will open things up and be more aggressive and explosive passing than we've ever been. Tua can make ALL the throws. If they play deep we can eat teams up underneath and if they play up close and blitz we can accurately go deep.

    I'm not saying we won't be balanced either though. I think Damien and Najee will put up huge numbers as well. I think we re-write the offensive records this year in terms of Total Yardage and Points.

    DC - On defense I think we will be every bit as aggressive as we have been under Pruitt. I'm not nearly as worried about the secondary as most. I think some of you are afraid of them being 2014 shakey. Deionte can PLAY and so can Savion Smith. Carter, Diggs, Knott and Mayden have all been in the system for 3 years.

    They will get tons of help from the front 7 seven to give them time to grow and gel anyway. Dylan Moses, Terrell Lewis, Mack Wilson, and Anfernee Jennings are going to be ALL over opposing QB's.

    On Special Teams I am very encouraged by DeLong's punting and Bulovas's Kicking so far..... we may shockingly not have a huge dropoff. Actually as far as FG's go we might be a lot better than in previous years so attempting longer FG's may be an option again instead of needing 4th down conversions on areas of the field that have been no-man's land.

    I look for our return game to....well RETURN as a threat in a big time way as well. If Jaylen Waddle can get in there LOOK OUT.

    Maybe I've drank too much koolaid too soon but I honestly think we are going to DOMINATE teams all year long. From the sister's of the poor to Top 25 SEC opponents. Just absolutely maul people on D and Blister them on O.
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by tusks_n_raider View Post
    OC - On offense I think once we establish some balance in the opener we will open things up and be more aggressive and explosive passing than we've ever been. Tua can make ALL the throws. If they play deep we can eat teams up underneath and if they play up close and blitz we can accurately go deep.

    I'm not saying we won't be balanced either though. I think Damien and Najee will put up huge numbers as well. I think we re-write the offensive records this year in terms of Total Yardage and Points.

    DC - On defense I think we will be every bit as aggressive as we have been under Pruitt. I'm not nearly as worried about the secondary as most. I think some of you are afraid of them being 2014 shakey. Deionte can PLAY and so can Savion Smith. Carter, Diggs, Knott and Mayden have all been in the system for 3 years.

    They will get tons of help from the front 7 seven to give them time to grow and gel anyway. Dylan Moses, Terrell Lewis, Mack Wilson, and Anfernee Jennings are going to be ALL over opposing QB's.

    On Special Teams I am very encouraged by DeLong's punting and Bulovas's Kicking so far..... we may shockingly not have a huge dropoff. Actually as far as FG's go we might be a lot better than in previous years so attempting longer FG's may be an option again instead of needing 4th down conversions on areas of the field that have been no-man's land.

    I look for our return game to....well RETURN as a threat in a big time way as well. If Jaylen Waddle can get in there LOOK OUT.

    Maybe I've drank too much koolaid too soon but I honestly think we are going to DOMINATE teams all year long. From the sister's of the poor to Top 25 SEC opponents. Just absolutely maul people on D and Blister them on O.
    I tend to agree.....I think we cruise until LSU. By then the DL has some depth and the secondary has some experience.
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenntiderman View Post
    Sure hope the DL gets some depth. Raekwon cannot stay on the field all day. The starting DL is again unreal...but we just need some depth. And the 2ndry? Man...I don't know. I know there is talent out there but....all our great DBs have taken a while to develop (with the possible exception of Minkah) and I do expect them to get torched at times. Hopefully we will get a nice surprise back there. They have a challenge for sure. On Offense? OL is again the key IMO. We are well stocked. Need a big year from Wills and Leatherwood. I know big Matt will give all he has to give. Feel good about those guys. Anxious to watch all our new coaches in action. That matters. Will we utilize our TEs? Hope so. If we get into a tight game...can Bulovas kick us out of it? His time is now. I think he will. Special Teams will have a different look I imagine. Can't wait to see all this happen since we have no baseball to watch. Bama baseball I mean.
    Not worried about. How we use DL this year will be different from the past, since now TOsh is the DC.
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamamick View Post
    Defense? It is Coach's defense.
    There will still be differences. I was rewatching some of last year's games, and I was struck by how much more aggressive Pruitt was than Smart.

    As far as the offense goes, I just want to see fewer jet sweeps.
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    "On Special Teams I am very encouraged by DeLong's punting and Bulovas's Kicking so far..... we may shockingly not have a huge dropoff. Actually as far as FG's go we might be a lot better than in previous years so attempting longer FG's may be an option again instead of needing 4th down conversions on areas of the field that have been no-man's land."

    Hey TusknRaider......This reflects my idea about what the Special Teams MAY tend to be this time around. We will miss Scott....but I think we just might see an overall upgrade. Would really like to add an 'Arenas' type return guy. Someone who is a threat. But I do think maybe we get an upgrade overall. Roll Tide!

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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenntiderman View Post
    "On Special Teams I am very encouraged by DeLong's punting and Bulovas's Kicking so far..... we may shockingly not have a huge dropoff. Actually as far as FG's go we might be a lot better than in previous years so attempting longer FG's may be an option again instead of needing 4th down conversions on areas of the field that have been no-man's land."

    Hey TusknRaider......This reflects my idea about what the Special Teams MAY tend to be this time around. We will miss Scott....but I think we just might see an overall upgrade. Would really like to add an 'Arenas' type return guy. Someone who is a threat. But I do think maybe we get an upgrade overall. Roll Tide!
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Offense and Defense will be mostly the same...
    BUT...
    Execution will be somewhat different.


    The new coaches weren't given those jobs... They were hired because Coach Saban thinks they can compliment what we already do.
    There will be different 'Wrinkles' in what we do, and how we do it. But we want throw 90 passes a game. We have some great Running Backs, and I expect they will help control the tempo of the game. We will still kind of play in a 4-3 Defense, but we have always had exceptions in that. It keeps the other guys honest.

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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Some good observations here...I do believe that because of our inexperience on the back side of the defense we will tend toward ball control on the offense...particularly if we get up a couple of scores. Not saying that we will not try to score...but we will want to do it with long drives, keeping the ball and therefore keeping our defense on the sidelines. Playing defense with your offense was a CNS trait before CLK showed up and CFB changed to become a real life video game. (Can you tell my bias??)
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    Re: A new OC and a new DC...so ...what changes in tendencies can we expect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Padreruf View Post
    Some good observations here...I do believe that because of our inexperience on the back side of the defense we will tend toward ball control on the offense...particularly if we get up a couple of scores. Not saying that we will not try to score...but we will want to do it with long drives, keeping the ball and therefore keeping our defense on the sidelines. Playing defense with your offense was a CNS trait before CLK showed up and CFB changed to become a real life video game. (Can you tell my bias??)
    Yep and I miss ball control Offense. In a way....I can understand why so many coaches go to the Xbox mentality. They dont have to compete for the horses on Defense, and the rules favor the fast pace Offenses now. But I was watching Arkansas' Spring game and the big thing I saw was 'hurry up! Hurry up!' Just like Awbun. Just like Missouri. Just like a hundred other schools out there. And Arkansas doesnt have the personnel right now. When CNS leaves....whenever that is? Man...I sure hope one of those Hurryup hounds doesnt make his way to Tuscaloosa. Don't want to see Bama become a Texas Tech or Baylor or SMU or Awbun.

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