Of the top 10 rated quarterbacks in total QBR last year, only four are returning.
Khalil Tate
McKenzie Milton
Jake Fromm
Jalen Hurts
Year | School | Conf | Class | Pos | G | Cmp | Att | Pct | Yds | Y/A | AY/A | TD | Int | Rate |
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Tua *2017 | Alabama | SEC | FR | QB | 8 | 49 | 77 | 63.6 | 636 | 8.3 | 9.9 | 11 | 2 | 175.0 |
Proof that QBR is totally bogus?Of the top 10 rated quarterbacks in total QBR last year, only four are returning.
Khalil Tate
McKenzie Milton
Jake Fromm
Jalen Hurts
Actually I was wrong, I missed one. Trace McSorley, he's still in college as well. The rest are with NFL teams now.Proof that QBR is totally bogus?
I think that folks here love Hurts. I know that I do. He is one of the best team players that I have seen - reminds me of Ingram in that respect. Really happy to see those around him do well. I also think that everyone here has nothing but well wishes for Jalen, whether he stays at Alabama or leaves. But that does not translate into everyone seeing him as an elite passer. Solid QB? Absolutely. But that is because being a QB means so much more than passing. But he is not an elite passer.Someone compliments an Alabama player and the first response is to mock him, the Alabama player, and anyone or anything that indicates said player might actually be anything more than you think he is.
I'm not saying Hurts is a top ten QB, but there are people who are paid to do this for a living that think so. There's also empirical evidence that indicates he still is a pretty good college quarterback. I agree that Tua has surpassed him, but never in all my time here have I seen such a concerted effort to make a current Alabama player out to be something less than many outside observers think he is.
Usually when someone compliments an Alabama player we celebrate that. Not with Hurts though, no, how dare someone that's paid to do this sort of thing for a living think Hurts is any good.
I don't really disagree with that. I'm not saying he's an elite passer, I doubt the guy on Finebaum said that either. I just think its sad that at this point Hurts can't even be complimented without us rushing to set the record straight.Jalen has a ceiling, and Tua blew through that ceiling like it wasn't there.
One the first highlighted point, you should add "or any team in the NFL."Someone compliments an Alabama player and the first response is to mock him, the Alabama player, and anyone or anything that indicates said player might actually be anything more than you think he is.
I'm not saying Hurts is a top ten QB, but there are people who are paid to do this for a living that think so. There's also empirical evidence that indicates he still is a pretty good college quarterback. I agree that Tua has surpassed him. Furthermore I agree that the style of offense that Hurts is most capable of running (at this point at least) isn't the best fit for Alabama. But never in all my time here have I seen such a concerted effort to make a current Alabama player out to be something less than many outside observers think he is.
Usually when someone compliments an Alabama player we celebrate that. Not with Hurts though, no, how dare someone that's paid to do this sort of thing for a living think Hurts is any good.
I agree. There are times I worry that I am setting myself up to be disappointed. We can all see Tua has a tremendous amount of potential. But whether he will actually reach that potential is still uncertain. I hope we are all right.I hope Tua lives up to the expectations of everyone on here; if he doesn't there could be a site blowup of epic proportions.
i personally can't wait to see what tua is capable of as the head dude, but we have exactly 1 half (and a damned fine half) of meaningful football by which to judge him.I think that folks here love Hurts. I know that I do. He is one of the best team players that I have seen - reminds me of Ingram in that respect. Really happy to see those around him do well. I also think that everyone here has nothing but well wishes for Jalen, whether he stays at Alabama or leaves. But that does not translate into everyone seeing him as an elite passer. Solid QB? Absolutely. But that is because being a QB means so much more than passing. But he is not an elite passer.
Alabama has a QB on the roster who can do everything that Jalen can do while also being an elite passer. Alabama fans got a taste of exactly what that meant in the GA game. Even those who were unsure if it was the play calling or something that was holding Jalen back saw the truth revealed in that game. Jalen has a ceiling, and Tua blew through that ceiling like it wasn't there.
I think the big unknown regarding Tua is how will he perform once there is enough game film on him for teams to start making adjustments. Because this is exactly what ended up happening to Hurts. Teams struggled to stop him for the first 3/4's of the season in 2016. Then came the LSU game. It was obvious what their defensive game plan was and if it weren't for their anemic offense and a few broken play gems by Hurts. We would have lost that game. But that was the game that set the precedence for other defenses going forward to shut down Hurts' effectiveness in the passing game. He wasn't able to adjust to their adjustments. And if A-Day tells us anything, he still hasn't been able to adjust.i personally can't wait to see what tua is capable of as the head dude, but we have exactly 1 half (and a damned fine half) of meaningful football by which to judge him.
Tua proved himself every time he got the chance last season. At the time some folks said "but he came in when the game was already won so there was no pressure". Well, he came in the 2nd half of the national title game, zero points and the offense couldn't move the ball. Suffice it to say there was tremendous pressure. He won the game and the national title for us, unlike the previous year when the offense went 3 and out so many times that the defense had to play 99 snaps against a good offense, and so we were beaten.i personally can't wait to see what tua is capable of as the head dude, but we have exactly 1 half (and a damned fine half) of meaningful football by which to judge him.
yes he did. now we get to see if he can prove himself for a full season.Tua proved himself every time he got the chance last season. At the time some folks said "but he came in when the game was already won so there was no pressure". Well, he came in the 2nd half of the national title game, zero points and the offense couldn't move the ball. Suffice it to say there was tremendous pressure. He won the game and the national title for us, unlike the previous year when the offense went 3 and out so many times that the defense had to play 99 snaps against a good offense, and so we were beaten.
Tua played well every chance he got during the season, and then he proved himself under tremendous pressure in the title game.
But the point is that it isn't really the case that we that we have only a half of a game to judge him. He played well all year. Most of the time he came into the game the offense immediately started playing better, vs the same defensive players and with the same offensive team mates that were on the field with Hurts the series before.yes he did. now we get to see if he can prove himself for a full season.
That's been my concern since National Championship... That everyone would have high expectation of Tua and what would happen if he didn't live up to the fan's expectation. I'm pretty sure there will be epic meltdown everywhere. That's why I've remained level-head about this and I refuse to proclaim Tua as our starter until I actually see both of them in the 1st game.I hope Tua lives up to the expectations of everyone on here; if he doesn't there could be a site blowup of epic proportions.
No, just means it's a stat, and like ANY other stat, it "Conceals as much as it Reveals".Proof that QBR is totally bogus?