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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Here is a good summary of Alabama law, with the 2013 amendment clarifying it. As you can see, the shooter would be in a world of hurt here:


    • About to use unlawful deadly physical force.
    • A burglar about to use physical force.
    • Engaged in kidnapping, assault, robbery, or rape.
    • Unlawfully and forcefully entering a home or car, or attempting to remove a person against their will. (There are exceptions for people who used to live there and are under no injunctions or domestic protection orders.)
    • Breaking into a nuclear power plant.

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    A person is also justified in the use of deadly force against someone who is "using or about to use physical force against an owner, employee, or other person authorized to be on business property when the business is closed to the public while committing or attempting to commit a crime involving death, serious physical injury, robbery, kidnapping, rape, sodomy, or a crime of a sexual nature involving a child under the age of 12.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Are these people wrong? (I believe the shooter was 46 - so technically not a senior citizen - although a young person might think he is ).


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    Are these people wrong? (I believe the shooter was 46 - so technically not a senior citizen - although a young person might think he is ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    Are these people wrong? (I believe the shooter was 46 - so technically not a senior citizen - although a young person might think he is ).

    Just watched it in its entirety. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and someone with that happy of a trigger finger shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun. The guy was backing off and was no where near a threat to the shooter's life. Cuff him and stuff him Enos!!!!
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    Just watched it in its entirety. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and someone with that happy of a trigger finger shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun. The guy was backing off and was no where near a threat to the shooter's life. Cuff him and stuff him Enos!!!!
    The store owner said this guy has started trouble with people in the parking lot before. So like you said, this was someone looking for a confrontation.

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    1st - dont park illegally in handicap spots
    2nd - if you do, dont make things worse by arguing with someone who calls you out about it, You were wrong, move
    3rd - dont walk up to someone and violently shove them down to the pavement
    4th - dont shoot someone who appears to be backing up

    The shooter severely over reacted. Whether race was involved or not is impossible to tell and we dont have audio to hear the exchange between the mother and the shooter. We also dont know what was said as father backed up a bit after shoving the guy to the ground. From the way I heard the Fla law explained on TV this morning I doubt the shooter will be charged. If I were the shooter however, I would be absolutely devastated with the results, legal or not.

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    Play stupid games....win stupid prizes.......
    Speaking my mind about this comment would get me banned from this site. The man is a murderer in most any place else. He inserted himself into a situation, behaved aggressively toward a woman and kid, and then the boyfriend came out to defend them from the aggressor and got shot for it instead of that gigantic vagina attempting to leave. He was humiliated and killed a man. The stupid game was his. He won.

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    In this case....at least a conversation took place....no violence....everyone lived to fight another day.....


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    Just watched it in its entirety. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and someone with that happy of a trigger finger shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun. The guy was backing off and was no where near a threat to the shooter's life. Cuff him and stuff him Enos!!!!
    That's my attitude as well. Guy backed off the moment he saw the gun. So at that point, the gun had done it's job. I'm hopeful that the DA will decide to prosecute; furthermore, I'd really like to see Florida revise the law.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by jthomas666 View Post
    That's my attitude as well. Guy backed off the moment he saw the gun. So at that point, the gun had done it's job. I'm hopeful that the DA will decide to prosecute; furthermore, I'd really like to see Florida revise the law.
    Exactly. It's a Stand Your Ground law, not "I Can Shoot You If I Escalate A Situation And Stand To Get My #$@ Beat" Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    In this case....at least a conversation took place....no violence....everyone lived to fight another day.....

    I suspect one big difference here is the girl realized she was wrong, backed down eventually and left. If the mother in the shooting video had simply said sorry and moved, the father would still be alive. However with no audio we can not tell how the shooting video became a heated verbal exchange that led to a physical confrontation.

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by 2003TIDE View Post
    The store owner said this guy has started trouble with people in the parking lot before. So like you said, this was someone looking for a confrontation.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaro View Post
    I suspect one big difference here is the girl realized she was wrong, backed down eventually and left. If the mother in the shooting video had simply said sorry and moved, the father would still be alive. However with no audio we can not tell how the shooting video became a heated verbal exchange that led to a physical confrontation.
    Agree 100%.

    The girl in the shooting incident wouldn't even have to apologize though....she's under no obligation to do so. But in my opinion, her #1 concern/responsibility would be for her children - who were in the car at the time - and perhaps the other one who was inside with the father.

    As I have stated here - this does not absolve the shooter.

    Just another perspective that is not being discussed.

    A parent's #1 responsibility is to protect their children. Period.

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