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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I couldn't really tell the race of either man from the video and really don't care.

    Not a fan of people who park in handicapped spots without a sticker but I'm not one to get worked up over it. Yes, it is wrong, but there are bigger problems in the world for me to worry about. (Will Jalen or Tua start the first game is one such concern of mine).

    Unless that guy had a handicapped person with him and every other spot was full, he needed to butt out.

    The victim was defending his girlfriend from being yelled at.

    I agree the guy should be charged with something. Not murder, as this wasn't planned, but at least manslaughter.
    If he actually were charged with murder I would have no problem with it. As fast as the guy pulled his gun then fired considering the now deceased was obviously retreating and no longer posed a threat to him. I don't even think you'd need a good lawyer to make a strong case for murder. But I'm not sure of the laws in Florida. By the comments of some on here who seem to have read the law. The person claiming SYG has A LOT of leeway afforded to them. This is tragic on so many levels.
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    It’s a good thing we have some people focusing on the really important things like how much of a jerk that lady was to park in the handicapped spot.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    big picture chanson, amirite?

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    There was no perfect person in any of this, but none of it required the shooter killing a man.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    big picture chanson, amirite?
    Kid just needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps after watching his dad die like that.

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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    The guy who grabbed the waitressí butt should have shot her after she knocked him down.


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I may have been too obscure in my explanation of the Florida law. The SYG statute in Florida actually has a "reasonable man" standard like Alabama's. Here's the pertinent section:



    Note the words "reasonably believes." For whatever reason, Florida has stretched the "reasonably" to scandalous lengths. One man was shot in the back of his head as he left the fight. No other state has construed the SYG laws as Florida has. Google "Florida stand your ground" cases, and you'll see what I mean...
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    Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
    Seems like the Stand Your Ground Law may not come into play but the wording above would. The shooter did not get the opportunity to stand or not stand his ground as he was blind-sided. He did have the opportunity to realize that he was not in danger of imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.

    I still think and hope the DA will charge even though I'm thinking it would be something like manslaughter. There was some aspect of fear, excitement, adrenaline, relatively short response time, etc. that could figure into the shooter's reaction due to being struck so hard and being knocked off of his feet. I think taking this into account along with being struck first would take away the chance at 1st degree and 2nd degree murder.

    And, the lady was a jerk if illegally parking in a handi-cap spot.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    I just donít know what to think about this. Torn!


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    The guy who grabbed the waitressí butt should have shot her after she knocked him down.


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    Totally different here. She responded like she did. Iím ok with her reaction. Iím not cool with either reaction here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    There was no perfect person in any of this, but none of it required the shooter killing a man.
    I want to say youíre right. I just donít know what to think.


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    I need more information.


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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    You start yelling at someone's wife and I'm sorry. You're basically holding up a sign that reads "PUNCH MY LIGHTS OUT!!!".
    Unfortunately, following the instructions on the sign is not conducive to keeping your own lights lit.
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    Re: FL's Stand Your Ground Law Strikes Again

    Quote Originally Posted by cbi1972 View Post
    Unfortunately, following the instructions on the sign is not conducive to keeping your own lights lit.
    If this wasnít so serious I would literally lol.


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