As mentioned before - discussion is fine, acting foolish is not. Be respectful to one another or you will be suspended, no warnings.
That was my initial thought - how bad does the internal communication have to be for this to happen? Something doesn’t fit.I still would like to know why he was put on AL if he had already reported it. Wouldn’t the people who put him on AL be the ones he reported it to?
Thanks. That had pretty much just degenerated into a running gun battle.As mentioned before - discussion is fine, acting foolish is not. Be respectful to one another or you will be suspended, no warnings.
Agreed. And I still don't understand why he lied on media day. I'm not anti Meyer at all but something seems off here still. And it may not be him it could be someone else in the story. But something just doesn't fit.I still would like to know why he was put on AL if he had already reported it. Wouldn’t the people who put him on AL be the ones he reported it to?
I’m not sure I believe any of it. Now Smith is doing ESPN interviews saying Meyer shouldn’t be fired, as if his word means anything. You’re right though, something doesn’t add up.That was my initial thought - how bad does the internal communication have to be for this to happen? Something doesn’t fit.
Perhaps the simplest explanation is the correct one... Perhaps they weren't ready to simply come out and say we fully support Meyer and have been aware of the situation but felt the need to do and/or say something publicly. So, they put Meyer on Administrative Leave while they consider their response - also giving them extra time for CYA - and announce their investigation in order to show the public that they are doing something.I still would like to know why he was put on AL if he had already reported it. Wouldn’t the people who put him on AL be the ones he reported it to?
I just don’t buy that. If he did nothing wrong, there is no need to place him on AL. They would have just come out and said “Urban reported this already, he did nothing wrong. Move along”. That’s not what happened though.Perhaps the simplest explanation is the correct one... Perhaps they weren't ready to simply come out and say we fully support Meyer and have been aware of the situation but felt the need to do and/or say something publicly. So, they put Meyer on Administrative Leave while they consider their response - also giving them extra time for CYA - and announce their investigation in order to show the public that they are doing something.
This is why it's almost always best to wait for multiple sides of a story to come out before forming your opinion, much less rushing to judgment, in order to avoid simply jumping to the first or most desired conclusion.
It's also why many seem to be obviously disappointed that Meyer hasn't already been fired - the conclusion to which they jumped hasn't been realized.
Maybe lying to the media is a smart play-call in 2018, but the nature of Meyer’s lies should disturb anybody paying attention. Let’s remember what he actually said.He claimed he learned about the 2015 incident after McMurphy reported it. And so he looked into it. And: “There was nothing… I don’t know who creates a story like that.” This, even though text messages show that Meyer’s own wife suggested Courtney Smith get a restraining order against her ex-husband.
So Urban Meyer, head coach at Ohio State, sat at a table, well aware that one of his coaches had been accused of domestic violence three times, and said, of one of those incidents, “I don’t know who creates a story like that.”
He also spoke about the 2009 incident, when Smith was accused of assaulting his pregnant wife. And what he said was: “what was reported wasn’t actually what happened.” And anyway, Zach and Courtney Smith were a “very young couple” at the time.
See, Meyer did not just lie about his knowledge of the 2015 incident. He minimized and distorted multiple serious accusations of domestic violence. It’s nice that he copped to the lie, but that’s not the end of the story. Not even close.
I never said he did nothing wrong. If nothing else, he lied to the media and brought this negative attention to the University. You're also assuming that the administrative leave decision wasn't an over-reaction due to the public outcry, which is certainly a possibility, even if unlikely.I just don’t buy that. If he did nothing wrong, there is no need to place him on AL. They would have just come out and said “Urban reported this already, he did nothing wrong. Move along”. That’s not what happened though.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you said that. My whole thing is if he reported it, they would have known. Why put him on AL and then wait an entire day to issue a statement? All they had to do was explain what happened and then move on. But they didn’t, and that’s why I don’t believe any of this.I never said he did nothing wrong. If nothing else, he lied to the media and brought this negative attention to the University. You're also assuming that the administrative leave decision wasn't an over-reaction due to the public outcry, which is certainly a possibility, even if unlikely.
Anyone can choose to believe whatever they want to believe. Personally, whenever I find myself wanting to believe something, I question why and try to convince myself against it in order to check my judgment.
I suppose the counter-argument to this line of thinking would be that while this used to be true it doesn't really work given the current, socio-political environment. If they had responded as such, that quickly, the response would be that the University was just sweeping it under the rug. Once it hit, the University was really in a no-win situation.Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you said that. My whole thing is if he reported it, they would have known. Why put him on AL and then wait an entire day to issue a statement? All they had to do was explain what happened and then move on. But they didn’t, and that’s why I don’t believe any of this.