Tua's Heisman Campaign watch

Bamabuzzard said:

Earlier in the season I thought the same thing but after seeing La Tech drop 400 yards of offense on them in Tiger stadium and then watching Ole Miss in a completely crappy showing still put 328 yards on them with a lot of dropped balls and other self inflicted missed opportunities on the offensive side ball. I'm not sure this LSU defense is as good as I first thought.

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I want Florida to beat LSU but I still want LSU to be ranked when we play them. I just don't want the LSU game to decide the West. I still think BAMA will win, but it will be a very tough game at their place.

Tua will play in the 4th quarter. I know that our kicking and punting needs to be at it's best that night. Hopefully our team will be healthy/injury free.

Saban4Ever said:

I want Florida to beat LSU but I still want LSU to be ranked when we play them. I just don't want the LSU game to decide the West. I still think BAMA will win, but it will be a very tough game at their place.

Tua will play in the 4th quarter. I know that our kicking and punting needs to be at it's best that night. Hopefully our team will be healthy/injury free.

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Ask me before the season or before the ole Miss game then I would say yes he would play the 4th quarter vs LSU, but now I don’t think so. Most of our troubles down at Red Stick has been due to moronic offensive game planning more than the venue and the Tigers themselves. Locks and Enos seem to have a little Spurrier and Jimmy Johnson in them in which they are going to force someone to stop what they are calling before going onto something else. I think we destroy LSU.

Like I said I think it’s more likely that Drew lock turns the game into somewhat of a shootout than LSU keeping pace with us.

Bamabuzzard said:

LSU's offense simply cannot stretch the field in enough chunk plays to get in a shoot out with our offense. I also don't think their offense is good enough to keep their defense off the field with long, clock eating drives.

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I want to say I agree with you on this, but I don't think I'm comfortable to go there yet. We rarely drove down the field and when we do that, it was a beautiful things to watch. I believe few factors played in this: Short field positions and Tua and the receivers' ability to generate big plays and I also think that Locksley is very aggressive with his play calling. Once we start facing better defense, I suspect we'll see play calls that will focus on being patient and wear out defense. I think we will go from scoring 50 plus to 40 plus when we face LSU and Auburn.

JustNeedMe81 said:

I want to say I agree with you on this, but I don't think I'm comfortable to go there yet. We rarely drove down the field and when we do that, it was a beautiful things to watch. I believe few factors played in this: Short field positions and Tua and the receivers' ability to generate big plays and I also think that Locksley is very aggressive with his play calling. Once we start facing better defense, I suspect we'll see play calls that will focus on being patient and wear out defense. I think we will go from scoring 50 plus to 40 plus when we face LSU and Auburn.

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I will take 40+ against the Barn and LSWho. It would mean we won both games by at least 21 pts.

It seemed like a pretty good week for Tua's Heisman hopes. He had one of the best first halfs a QB has had in years, and though Murray is keeping pace statistically, the L won't help his hopes. Haskins is putting up a lot of numbers, but without the same level of efficiency. Grier had a mediocre game and I'd say the only thing keeping his hopes alive at this point would be the fact that his team is undefeated.

crimsonaudio said:

Tua is dominating the stats right now - higher completion percentage, more yards per attempt, greater rate of TD's per pass thrown, and high QB rating:

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That 14.8 ypa is nuts

We're so good at pressing the ball vertically in the passing game that we're really gonna burn some team with a blitz strategy expecting long drops. I know it is there because we've tossed a few with Jalen on the field but they're almost unused when Tua is playing.

BAMAVILLE said:

That's some overall impressive production by some QBs right there! But err ... looks like someone's missing from the list? Stidham should be like ... number one, right?

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bwahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Kyler Murray has a loss, Will Grier throws too many INT's and Dwayne Haskins looked inconsistent against Penn State. It looks like Tua's trophy.

Right now, it's Tua in a landslide!

crimsonaudio said:

Tua is dominating the stats right now - higher completion percentage, more yards per attempt, greater rate of TD's per pass thrown, and high QB rating:

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Interestingly enough, if he had enough attempts to qualify, Jalen Hurts' current passer rating would place him fourth on that list.


ETA: Mac Jones current passer rating would place him third on that list but, with only seven passing attempts, it's a very, very small sample size.

crimsonaudio said:

Tua is dominating the stats right now - higher completion percentage, more yards per attempt, greater rate of TD's per pass thrown, and high QB rating:

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Have no idea how to post chart directly, but here is a link to situational stats for tua, simply mind boggling production, he has only thrown 20 passes in the second half. The numbers really look like video game statistics.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/player/8/1085730/passing/situational.html

uafan4life said:

Interestingly enough, if he had enough attempts to qualify, Jalen Hurts' current passer rating would place him fourth on that list.


ETA: Mac Jones current passer rating would place him third on that list but, with only seven passing attempts, it's a very, very small sample size.

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It is interesting, and it's not like Hurts hasn't thrown any passers. He's thrown 42, so there's guys on the list that haven't thrown a whole lot more.

Here is how I see it at this point.

1. Tua - He's been essentially perfect. He won't have the yards some of these other guys have but that shouldn't matter when you when you are averaging 14.8 ypa, throwing a TD every 5 or 6 attempts and haven't turned the ball over. He's been unreal and is the clear lead IMO. But, November will be where he wins or loses it.

2. Kyler Murray - he is almost what we all hoped Jalen turned into IMO. He is a good but not great passer but an explosive runner. His 2 turnovers vs Texas really cost them (an both were pretty terrible) but I think voters will ignore that because of the way he ended the game (leading OU back).

3. Haskins - He should maybe be number 2 because his team is undefeated and he hasn't hurt his team in a big game but I was pretty unimpressed with him vs Penn State. A large majority of his yards in that game were after the catch and pretty sure he didn't complete a pass longer than 10 or 15 yards. It sounds like that was a similar case this past game. He's still good and will absolutely get an invite I just don't think he's as good as advertised.

4. Grier - He has turned the ball over too much. He'll likely have the most yards though.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...-tagovailoa-stats-heisman-alabama-quarterback

This can’t wait any longer. We just have to talk about Tua Tagovailoa.

More specifically, we have to talk about his stats. I’ve never seen anything like them. You haven’t either.

If you ever asked yourself, in one of your more masochistic moments, “I wonder what it would be like if Nick Saban had the best quarterback in college football,” wonder no more. Hell, he might not only have the best quarterback of 2018 — he might have the best QB of the decade. There have been a lot of good quarterbacks this decade!

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I like the 3rd down and 10+ stat. 9 of 11 attempts and 3 of those were for a TD.