At this point I would be shocked if he ends up without an invite. Obviously its way to early but if he plays like he has so far he will get an invite. He can defintiely win it while only throwing for 200 yards a game and 3 total tds but it will be harder if someone like Grier puts up 400 yards and 5 TDs consistently while also have WVU as a top 10ish team. Grier would need to have some bad games against teams like OU
I see the RB and DT dropping out and it being the top 5 QBs. If CNS does not put Halen in too early each game then I see Tua moving up.http://m.espn.com/ncf/heisman?src=desktop
According to this article Tua is in fifth place atm. Though I doubt the dt will get any real consideration come vote time.
And if he should get hurt while running up his stats, how does that help Bama out the next week, or the week after???I hope it is clear by the Tennessee game that Tua is in the thick of the race and Saban lets him go off and post better or at least comparable numbers to Grier's.
ESPN's poll is really a single collective mind voting. What I mean is that they are a group of voters with the same set of influences and biases. That causes their votes to all sway together, like a tree in the wind. The actual voters are all over the country with influences and biases that vary greatly. Their votes will also sway in the wind, but the wind will come from all kinds of directions. Also keep in mind that ESPN actually wants to be a part of the story (not just report it), so they are pushing candidates instead of simply voting for the guys having the best seasons (just look at all of the stories about Oliver so far this year).http://m.espn.com/ncf/heisman?src=desktop
According to this article Tua is in fifth place atm. Though I doubt the dt will get any real consideration come vote time.
I'm a big Tua fan and thought last year he was the better qb (and caught a lot of flak for it) but I hope today we have a heavy dose of running backs showing off, which would probably mean we're running clock and keeping their offense off the field. A good passing game, though, helps to sell that, and we have that this year. When those linebackers cheat up today, Tagovailoa will be more able to take advantage of receivers slanting into that area the lb just vacated.He could take a huge step today.
That’s true. Good point. You’ve changed my mind. Still, I hope he torches them. We could easily score 70 points by what we look at on paper.I'm a big Tua fan and thought last year he was the better qb (and caught a lot of flak for it) but I hope today we have a heavy dose of running backs showing off, which would probably mean we're running clock and keeping their offense off the field. A good passing game, though, helps to sell that, and we have that this year. When those linebackers cheat up today, Tagovailoa will be more able to take advantage of receivers slanting into that area the lb just vacated.
This.... Our tendancy to let off the gas will keep him from getting the trophy.Tua will win the Heisman IF he is given enough playing time. My concern would be that coach pulls him too early in games before he can put up the big numbers needed.
That’s my fear. I personally do not believe that Saban will let our guys score 70 on anybody.This.... Our tendancy to let off the gas will keep him from getting the trophy.
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Don’t think that is true. I haven’t seen anything special on Grier’s end.Grier is going to probably win it unless WVU loses or Tua just has one of those “heisman moments”. I just don’t think we will have enough close games for him to show out.
The problem is the voting system. If all three (Tua, Haskins, and Grier) are up for in the official voting period then it favors Grier because he is more likely to receive more 1st and 2nd place votes than both. It doesn’t have to do with who is better it has to do with the voting format.Don’t think that is true. I haven’t seen anything special on Grier’s end.
Well, if any of those four win out and the respective QB hasn't been suspended or injured, I'd tend to favor whomever that might be really. Here's the FPI win out %, 42.5% for Alabama, 14.1% Ohio State, 8.1% Oklahoma, and .4% West Virginia. So yeah if Grier carries them to an undefeated season, he'll deserve a lot of credit, but they were 7-6 last year so he has a lot of work to do.Grier is going to probably win it unless WVU loses or Tua just has one of those “heisman moments”. I just don’t think we will have enough close games for him to show out.