Sen. Ben Sasse unloads on Congress at Kavanaugh hearing
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How can you possibly assail Clinton's sexual proclivities while in the same breath failing to condemn Warren G. Harding fathering an illegitimate child while in public office? Must be their party affiliations and your limited moral outrage.
You're right, this is fun.
Good luck getting 2/3 of them to vote themselves out of office.
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Don’t forget all the illegitimate children of Thomas Jefferson. At least we don’t have heads of state intermarrying each other like Europe.
Regarding the four points in the tweet in the post above:
1. Okay, so we have a person's name.
2. Anybody can accuse anyone else of anything.
3. The therapist's notes never names the accused. It doesn't corroborate anything against Judge Kavanaugh. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article218496410.html
4. Even if this is true, polygraph tests are unreliable (and even inadmissible in many courts including the District of Columbia). Too many false positive and false negative results to be believed. https://www.quora.com/Why-are-lie-detector-results-not-permissible-in-American-courts
The timing of this is more than suspect. Sen. Feinstein is said to have had a letter about this since July. Well before the hearings. This is akin to a prosecutor holding onto a document throughout a trial, choosing not to share it with the defense or the judge through all witness testimonies and cross-examinations, then purposefully throwing it at the jury as they are about to deliberate. Even if the document is completely true, there should and would likely be severe consequences from the judge for the prosecuter's actions. That is exactly what the lawyers in Washington are trying to do with this. They know it's unjust, but they also know that constituents are so easily swayed by recent gossip that they are willing to do things like that to keep or gain power.
Innocent until proven guilty....unless the accused holds different political views than me. Then guilty until proven innocent. Kavanaugh denies it. So the burden of proof falls on Dr. Ford. So far, I have seen no proof. You want to hear more from her? Sure, you may hear more, but the Democrats have purposefully put themselves in this time crunch before the October Supreme Court sessions (or, much more important for them, the November elections). It was pretty clear that Kavanaugh was headed for confirmation. So I would like to hear ANY Democrat say that if these allegations turn out to be false and there is no proof of Judge Kavanaugh's wrongdoing, that they will personally guarantee his approval, even if after the next election. It will never happen. Think about why.
Not disagreeing with all of your post but I imagine it wouldn’t happen because even without that he’s still not a good candidate.
I’d also point out the Republicans knew about this and prepared for it well ahead of the letter being publicized. So either they found out early about the letter or Kavanaugh warned them it could come up which would lend it pretty damning credence.
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A lot about this is fishy, from Feinstein keeping the letter secret to Grassley magically coming up with a bunch of women to vouch for Kavanaugh, to the committee chair refusing to allow any examination of Kavanaugh's views.
If you guys haven't noticed, I get very passionate when people get accused of things under nefarious circumstances. It has happened to me, and I despise it. An accused person of any political view, race, gender, etc should absolutely be treated fairly until proven guilty.
agree, thats why we need hearings to determine how to proceed. Slow the process, dig in and see what the deal is. It's that fairest way togo
I agree with those who say the timing of the release is suspect. But if this had been dropped in July they go to the next person on the list and we still have a full Senate vote before the elections.
I didn’t follow the hearings very closely so I really don’t have an opinion either way about his competence to sit on the court.
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I didn’t follow the hearings very closely so I really don’t have an opinion either way about his competence to sit on the court.
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They can still do that. They have 45 days. In fact, they could probably yank his nomination and force through someone even more conservative, because votes like that after a scandal are more likely to pass. I would argue it's the smart move.
But they'll probably drag this out.
the timing is suspect but
From what we know of the accuser, she didn't want this to go public but she also didn't want to see (what she see's as) her attacker end up on the supreme court so she sent the letter "in case"
I think she thought that everything else we've seen. His lying on Roe, his purjering himself to Congress, the hundreds of thousands of documents the GOP refuses to release and all his other problems would keep him off the bench when that didn't happen the media got wind of the "in case" letter.
Bottom line this is a garbage candidate the only reason Kavanaugh got the nod is that he has signaled that he believes a sitting President to be above the law and since the GOP is all in, in that regard they are jamming him through. If they had sense they would have told Trump no but they are too spineless to do anything as they are terrified to be called out in one of his tantrums so they are rushing this poorly vetted joke through which made this woman have to use her "in case"
I get why it happened when it did.
Did she really think the Republicans would block this without something really bad coming out? Collins seemed to be leaning in favor and I haven’t heard from Murkowski. Flake and Corker don’t seem capable of growing a pair even if they aren’t worried about an election.
Unless some other woman comes forward, I don’t think this hurts him. Thomas did some creepy stuff as an adult and he still passed. This will be brushed off as a youthful indiscretion and he is approved.
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Unless some other woman comes forward, I don’t think this hurts him. Thomas did some creepy stuff as an adult and he still passed. This will be brushed off as a youthful indiscretion and he is approved.
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