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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama_N_Va View Post
    Thats not what I'm implying here. Get up 2-3 TDs and THEN grind out the clock. 35 seconds between plays...
    It sounds good in theory, but doesn't work in reality. Alabama has found its offensive identity. You go fast, and you attack the field vertically. You do this with Tua, and then you do it with Jalen so he is ready if he is needed. For a team to be able to grind out a game, you have to develop an identity as that type of team. You have to practice that way, and play that way. That is simply not your identity this year.

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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Right now my hunch is that Tua will be 30-0 with 3 NC rings and 1-2 Heisman's and will be a LOCK for the Overall #1 NFL Draft Pick in 2020.

    It would be almost a miracle for him come back for a Senior season. There would be nothing else to prove or show the NFL scouts.

    Though he IS a mighty spiritual young man and who knows..... he and his family may pray and decide to come back so it's not 100% out of the question.

    As for life around here post-Tua??

    I've got my eggs in the Taulia basket. He's not 'Tua great' but he's great in his own way. He's putting up MASSIVE numbers this year in HS.

    He looks like a reverse mirror image of Tua, same mechanics, footwork, release, etc everything. He's just not the same level of accurate as Tua.... but no one is there.

    This is probably equivalent to this generations Peyton and Eli Manning. Both Great in their own ways and have NFL talent.

    How lucky are we that both Tua and Taulia will have played for us??? I'm pretty giddy about it.

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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    1. Tua is gone after next year but I’ve been wrong before

    2. Taulia will be as advertised, but the kicker is will we have an embarrassment of riches at WR that Tua has at his disposal?

    3. I can imagine both brothers being responsible for 3-4 titles for CNS and he may elect to bang it up after this historic run, which we may never see again in our lifetime


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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm replying to the original post:

    If Tua continues to play the way he has thus far, he should not stay in Tuscaloosa 1 second longer than he has to. He will be a very wealthy man. Teams will be vying for his services, and those at or near the top will move mountains to get him (New York Giants, LA Chargers, perhaps Tampa Bay and Miami as well).

    Now, moving forward, let's temper some expectations. Tualia is VERY good....but he isn't Tua. I don't want anyone to take for granted what they're seeing right now. Tua is a once in a generation talent. However, the level of talent that Coach Saban is assembling in Tuscaloosa for such an extended period of time will likely never be seen again (only rivaled by that 90s to early 00s Miami run). Taulia can be special with all he'll have around him.

    BUT....Taulia isn't the only QB in the upcoming class. As one of my really good friends (who played for Coach Bryant) has told me, he feels that the pressure to play Paul Tyson over Taulia is what will run Coach Saban out of Tuscaloosa (I disagree wholeheartedly, for the record). Paul Tyson is very good. When I saw him this summer, I thought he needed to get bigger in the lower body. He has looked much better this season than he did last season and even over the summer in 7 on 7. At best, he's AJ McCarron. At worst, he's Jay Barker. Pretty darn good either way. But side by side, Taulia is better in all aspects except size.

    And even more than that, don't overlook Mac Jones. Nick is notorious for going with guys that the trusts over more talented guys (for example, nobody that knows anything about football can give me one football related reason why Hootie Jones should have been on the field over Deionte Thompson at any point last season). By that time, it will be Jones's 4th year at Alabama and he will have had 2.5 years of QB coaching from Dan Enos.

    Either way, the bottom line is this, there is a reason why Coach Saban hired so many young coaches this past overhaul. Barring health issues, he has no intentions of going anywhere any time soon. And he wanted a hungry, energetic staff that was committed to proving that he is still (and will be) king of college football until he decides to leave. (Did you notice how irritated he sounded at SEC Media days when discussing coaches negative recruiting him about his age? There is a certain someone, who shall remain unnamed that got in his craw and is feuling all of this....)

    Please, enjoy what we have right now. All this belly aching over giving up 31 to a team that we still beat by 34, just stop it. We are in the midst of something that will likely never be duplicated.
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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm replying to the original post:

    If Tua continues to play the way he has thus far, he should not stay in Tuscaloosa 1 second longer than he has to. He will be a very wealthy man. Teams will be vying for his services, and those at or near the top will move mountains to get him (New York Giants, LA Chargers, perhaps Tampa Bay and Miami as well).

    Now, moving forward, let's temper some expectations. Tualia is VERY good....but he isn't Tua. I don't want anyone to take for granted what they're seeing right now. Tua is a once in a generation talent. However, the level of talent that Coach Saban is assembling in Tuscaloosa for such an extended period of time will likely never be seen again (only rivaled by that 90s to early 00s Miami run). Taulia can be special with all he'll have around him.

    BUT....Taulia isn't the only QB in the upcoming class. As one of my really good friends (who played for Coach Bryant) has told me, he feels that the pressure to play Paul Tyson over Taulia is what will run Coach Saban out of Tuscaloosa (I disagree wholeheartedly, for the record). Paul Tyson is very good. When I saw him this summer, I thought he needed to get bigger in the lower body. He has looked much better this season than he did last season and even over the summer in 7 on 7. At best, he's AJ McCarron. At worst, he's Jay Barker. Pretty darn good either way. But side by side, Taulia is better in all aspects except size.

    And even more than that, don't overlook Mac Jones. Nick is notorious for going with guys that the trusts over more talented guys (for example, nobody that knows anything about football can give me one football related reason why Hootie Jones should have been on the field over Deionte Thompson at any point last season). By that time, it will be Jones's 4th year at Alabama and he will have had 2.5 years of QB coaching from Dan Enos.

    Either way, the bottom line is this, there is a reason why Coach Saban hired so many young coaches this past overhaul. Barring health issues, he has no intentions of going anywhere any time soon. And he wanted a hungry, energetic staff that was committed to proving that he is still (and will be) king of college football until he decides to leave. (Did you notice how irritated he sounded at SEC Media days when discussing coaches negative recruiting him about his age? There is a certain someone, who shall remain unnamed that got in his craw and is feuling all of this....)

    Please, enjoy what we have right now. All this belly aching over giving up 31 to a team that we still beat by 34, just stop it. We are in the midst of something that will likely never be duplicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    As one of my really good friends (who played for Coach Bryant) has told me, he feels that the pressure to play Paul Tyson over Taulia is what will run Coach Saban out of Tuscaloosa (I disagree wholeheartedly, for the record).
    The only reason I don't see this happening is that CNS won't be bullied. And I think he's amassed enough power to stare down any of the old school boosters who are fixated on the name 'Bryant'.
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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    JMO, and I said this after the GA game - I think that Tua goes to the NFL as the #1 draft pick after the 2019 season. He will be 30-0 as a starter and wearing 3 championship rings. He may also be the second player in history to win the Heisman twice.
    Yeah, Im going to go with " he stays for his senior year and helps the younger brother". The family is tight."
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    Alabama is 2- and 3-deep all over the place with full grown, meaner-than-he!! men. It's almost not fair making college kids play against them. Any Saban-coached team is going to be deep as he!! with recruits that have elite size, strength and experience at their position and they are going to play with incredible physicality.

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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Exactly my reasons for disagreeing with him

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    The only reason I don't see this happening is that CNS won't be bullied. And I think he's amassed enough power to stare down any of the old school boosters who are fixated on the name 'Bryant'.
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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Maybe this should be on the recruiting board, but Tua's getting us a lot of profile in the Pacific Rim. Maybe there's another Jesse Williams out there looking at Bama now?

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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by scrodz View Post
    Maybe this should be on the recruiting board, but Tua's getting us a lot of profile in the Pacific Rim. Maybe there's another Jesse Williams out there looking at Bama now?
    Actually yes
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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm replying to the original post:

    If Tua continues to play the way he has thus far, he should not stay in Tuscaloosa 1 second longer than he has to. He will be a very wealthy man. Teams will be vying for his services, and those at or near the top will move mountains to get him (New York Giants, LA Chargers, perhaps Tampa Bay and Miami as well).

    Now, moving forward, let's temper some expectations. Tualia is VERY good....but he isn't Tua. I don't want anyone to take for granted what they're seeing right now. Tua is a once in a generation talent. However, the level of talent that Coach Saban is assembling in Tuscaloosa for such an extended period of time will likely never be seen again (only rivaled by that 90s to early 00s Miami run). Taulia can be special with all he'll have around him.

    BUT....Taulia isn't the only QB in the upcoming class. As one of my really good friends (who played for Coach Bryant) has told me, he feels that the pressure to play Paul Tyson over Taulia is what will run Coach Saban out of Tuscaloosa (I disagree wholeheartedly, for the record). Paul Tyson is very good. When I saw him this summer, I thought he needed to get bigger in the lower body. He has looked much better this season than he did last season and even over the summer in 7 on 7. At best, he's AJ McCarron. At worst, he's Jay Barker. Pretty darn good either way. But side by side, Taulia is better in all aspects except size.

    And even more than that, don't overlook Mac Jones. Nick is notorious for going with guys that the trusts over more talented guys (for example, nobody that knows anything about football can give me one football related reason why Hootie Jones should have been on the field over Deionte Thompson at any point last season). By that time, it will be Jones's 4th year at Alabama and he will have had 2.5 years of QB coaching from Dan Enos.

    Either way, the bottom line is this, there is a reason why Coach Saban hired so many young coaches this past overhaul. Barring health issues, he has no intentions of going anywhere any time soon. And he wanted a hungry, energetic staff that was committed to proving that he is still (and will be) king of college football until he decides to leave. (Did you notice how irritated he sounded at SEC Media days when discussing coaches negative recruiting him about his age? There is a certain someone, who shall remain unnamed that got in his craw and is feuling all of this....)

    Please, enjoy what we have right now. All this belly aching over giving up 31 to a team that we still beat by 34, just stop it. We are in the midst of something that will likely never be duplicated.
    Mack, great info as always but I would be very surprised If Enos stays around that long. The job he is doing with our QB's is getting nationwide attention and rightfully so. Somebody will lure him away.

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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama_N_Va View Post
    Two things:

    1) I think Tua stays at least until he gets his degree

    2) I'm seeing "talk" about Kyler being the best QB right now. I think Tua separates himself from the pack once and for all when he plays a quality opponent, and stays in the whole game.
    Where are you seeing this? The only thing I hear is he is a better runner and he is really really quick. If Tua could come out this year he would likely be the first pick. With him playing so little its actually enhancing not harming him. He is very efficient and it helps his stats not having to be in the game during garbage time to hand off left hand off right. Teams will be tanking next year to get Tua.
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    Re: Pondering the future... Bama/Saban/QB

    Quote Originally Posted by CullmanTide View Post
    Mack, great info as always but I would be very surprised If Enos stays around that long. The job he is doing with our QB's is getting nationwide attention and rightfully so. Somebody will lure him away.
    Hope you are wrong. We need to open the check book keep him around but I think you are probably right in that he will be a hot commodity.
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