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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by Ldlane View Post
    Not a strong enough case for me. Maybe "My Homes in Alabama" would be more appropriate!
    IMO, that would rival what WVU does with Country Road by John Denver.

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    Exhibit A:

    they played once or twice the friday night before homecoming in the early 80s when they used to do a "bama bash" (i think that's what they called it) in the stadium. iirc, i saw crystal gayle, larry gatlin and alabama play at those events
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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    It's not, or shouldn't be though of as a family environment? Really?

    I mean, I can maybe get on board with us clarifying the definition of what a family environment is, but if Alabama football shouldn't be thought of something you can enjoy with your kids then what the hell is the point?

    Again, maybe we shouldn't be clutching our pearls at some things that we do, but geez. Some of my fondest memories of childhood involved going to Alabama games. Help me understand where I'm looking at this the wrong way.
    Can you prevent other people’s drunkenness outside your household? No

    Can you prevent other people’s cussing outside your household? No

    Can you prevent other people fighting each other outside your household? No

    Can you prevent what obscene jestures people do or what obscene clothing people wear outside your household? No

    Can you prevent folks smoking legal and illegal substances outside your household? No

    Can you prevent vulgar and graphic music being played while strolling the streets outside your household? No

    Can you prevent forest fires? Yes

    Point is all the 6 things above the forest fires nod happens very regularly at game day. Something will and always will occur on game day that aren’t kid or family friendly that is out of your control. Someone made the reference to Bourbon Street and it’s a good comparison. Being “family friendly” means it’s only a family friendly environment if none of those 6 things don’t bother you and you are willing to subject your family to those things.

    New Orleans and BDS are great experiences but maybe not for kids depending on what you find is too graphic or too obscene. What the few that are saying “not family friendly” are commenting on is this myth the older fans had made in that “ Bama fans are all classy, don’t stand up during games, no one brings alcohol in the stadium, everyone stands for the flag, and we are all respectful so much that we rival aTm fans and anyone would feel say bringing the wife and kids”. I’ve been going to most of the games the last 8 years and can tell you that is false on so many levels.

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    It's not, or shouldn't be though of as a family environment? Really?

    I mean, I can maybe get on board with us clarifying the definition of what a family environment is, but if Alabama football shouldn't be thought of something you can enjoy with your kids then what the hell is the point?

    Again, maybe we shouldn't be clutching our pearls at some things that we do, but geez. Some of my fondest memories of childhood involved going to Alabama games. Help me understand where I'm looking at this the wrong way.
    I think that football straddles the adult and family worlds. Yes, parents often take their children to football games at all levels (including the NFL). But these are primarily adult venues that cater to themes not generally encouraged in the young (aggressive and violent behavior). So, IMO, when you take your children to football games it is up to you to manage their exposure to adult activities. The activities should not be watered down to allow for parents who do not want to expose their children to these things.

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Yeah there is a risk acceptance you have to make if you're going to take your kids. I guess I would just hate to declare the games a no family zone. Ultimately what happens is going to happen and you can't stop it without losing the game altogether and I get that.

    Like I said I'm just thinking back to when I went to my first game. I'm sure there were things going on that I had no idea about. The memories I have are 100% family fun.

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Can you prevent other people’s drunkenness outside your household? No

    Can you prevent other people’s cussing outside your household? No

    Can you prevent other people fighting each other outside your household? No

    Can you prevent what obscene jestures people do or what obscene clothing people wear outside your household? No

    Can you prevent folks smoking legal and illegal substances outside your household? No

    Can you prevent vulgar and graphic music being played while strolling the streets outside your household? No

    Can you prevent forest fires? Yes

    Point is all the 6 things above the forest fires nod happens very regularly at game day. Something will and always will occur on game day that aren’t kid or family friendly that is out of your control. Someone made the reference to Bourbon Street and it’s a good comparison. Being “family friendly” means it’s only a family friendly environment if none of those 6 things don’t bother you and you are willing to subject your family to those things.

    New Orleans and BDS are great experiences but maybe not for kids depending on what you find is too graphic or too obscene. What the few that are saying “not family friendly” are commenting on is this myth the older fans had made in that “ Bama fans are all classy, don’t stand up during games, no one brings alcohol in the stadium, everyone stands for the flag, and we are all respectful so much that we rival aTm fans and anyone would feel say bringing the wife and kids”. I’ve been going to most of the games the last 8 years and can tell you that is false on so many levels.
    i went to my first game in '78 and our cheap seats were right next to the fence of the student section (it was also the end zone where coach bryant would lean on the goal post). the greeks were right on the other side. it was like watching animal house. and back then the entire stadium reeked of bourbon and cigars. i also got to go to a ton of games as an usher with the boy scouts and we were always in the same section next to the greeks.
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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Take the Senior Bowl - I last went about 20 years ago. The drunkenness and profanity were omnipresent, police were busy escorting rowdy drunks out and breaking up fights between fathers with kids and the “cursers “.
    Face it people, kids hear worse language before the 5th grade. Any parent taking their “child” to any college or pro game (from what I’ve seen, those are worse - and I’ve only been to one Saints game) should either be prepared for this behavior, or don’t take your kids; you’re not going to change anything and will only bring unnecessary angst upon yourself otherwise.


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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    Yeah there is a risk acceptance you have to make if you're going to take your kids. I guess I would just hate to declare the games a no family zone. Ultimately what happens is going to happen and you can't stop it without losing the game altogether and I get that.

    Like I said I'm just thinking back to when I went to my first game. I'm sure there were things going on that I had no idea about. The memories I have are 100% family fun.
    We aren’t saying it’s 100% no family zone, we are just addressing this notion that the older crowd seems to hold in that it’s safe for anyone and the lack of morality is almost solely on the students so taking DD is going to solve the majority of the problems.

    I personally would prefer a more family friendly environment for all, but it isn’t happening with beer, smoke, and youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    Like I said I'm just thinking back to when I went to my first game. I'm sure there were things going on that I had no idea about. The memories I have are 100% family fun.
    I think that's the salient point. A young kid with no exposure to foul language won't even understand what's being said, and those old enough to understand it are highly unlikely to have the virginal ears their parents want to believe they do.

    I would love it if people were more respectful wrt how they espouse their feelings, but it's no big deal in the gran scheme of things. I look at my children witnessing these behaviors as a teachable moment now that they're all old enough to 'get it'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    We aren’t saying it’s 100% no family zone, we are just addressing this notion that the older crowd seems to hold in that it’s safe for anyone and the lack of morality is almost solely on the students so taking DD is going to solve the majority of the problems.
    Indeed - I've had random (adult) fans around be shout far more offensive things than the students chant.
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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    I think that's the salient point. A young kid with no exposure to foul language won't even understand what's being said, and those old enough to understand it are highly unlikely to have the virginal ears their parents want to believe they do.

    I would love it if people were more respectful wrt how they espouse their feelings, but it's no big deal in the gran scheme of things. I look at my children witnessing these behaviors as a teachable moment now that they're all old enough to 'get it'.
    Honestly I think that maybe closer to the truth. I remember going to an 08 or 09 ( my memory is good but nowhere near Selma’s) game and hearing the DD chant then pretty clearly. I was kinda shocked that folks didn’t know what they were chanting all these years until Corso played on game day for the the 2014 iron bowl.

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    Re: “Dixieland Delight” Has Been Set Free

    Quote Originally Posted by Ldlane View Post
    I never understood why they were singing about Tennessee.
    They didn’t write the song. A vol fan did.

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