Trump threatens to cut U.S. aid to Honduras over immigrants

GrayTide said:

So what happens when these 5,000-7,000 immigrants show up at the US-Mexican wanting asylum? Does trump authorize the use of force against them? If so what kind of force?

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They aren’t immigrants. They are invaders. America had no obligation to take any of them in.

The more I see it the more I’m glad I moved away from hate & don’t sound like that anymore.

http://time.com/5430940/donald-trum...2Un35UylxBhcLgU3H4UbU_fpvIsHAX--HokYZOvIHcOO4

[FONT=&quot]Trump has lashed out at the caravan as an example of illegal immigration, [/FONT]threatening[FONT=&quot] to deploy U.S. military force to “close our Southern border” and [/FONT]stop what he has described as a crisis[FONT=&quot]. But [/FONT]illegal border crossings[FONT=&quot] have been [/FONT]declining overall[FONT=&quot] for more than a decade, though the number of border apprehensions fluctuates month-to-month. And under U.S. law, it is [/FONT]legal to petition for asylum[FONT=&quot] at the border, though the process may be lengthy and ultimately unsuccessful.[/FONT]

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Bama 8Ball said:

Not discounting your point, but I worked at Vanderbilt University Hospital during that time. Ebola is no joke...nasty bug. We had multiple training sessions dealing with it. When it showed up stateside, there was real concern among our physicians, and it wasn't exclusive to brown people. We had to ask every patient that walked in if they had recently traveled abroad and to where. That was not part of the patient history before then.

I think it is more sensationalism than a political ploy. Media wants those viewers and want those clicks, and a great way to accomplish that is to sensationalize everything: every flu outbreak, every winter storm, etc. For sure Pols take it, spin it to benefit them, and run with it.

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yes, it was a very serious deal. cdc/emory here did a lot of work on it.

this is what i was talking about

https://twitter.com/abc/status/525472979443273728

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/525472979443273728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E525472979443273728&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2014%2F10%2F23%2Ftrump-ebola-twitter-obama%2F17815841%2F

https://twitter.com/abc/status/525474609710510080

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/525474609710510080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E525474609710510080&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2014%2F10%2F23%2Ftrump-ebola-twitter-obama%2F17815841%2F

This just in....new footage of the caravan reaching the US border.......:eek2:

BamaJama17 said:

They aren’t immigrants. They are invaders. America had no obligation to take any of them in.

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Since you have determined they are invaders; do they pose an immediate threat to the lives of Americans? If you determine American lives are in danger then would you be okay with the US military opening fire on unarmed men, women, children civilians?

GrayTide said:

Since you have determined they are invaders and pose a threat to the lives of Americans, then you would be okay with the US military opening fire on unarmed women, children and male civilians.

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Having been around tons of people with that mindset I would almost guarantee they are fine with it.

GrayTide said:

Since you have determined they are invaders; do they pose an immediate threat to the lives of Americans? If you determine American lives are in danger then would you be okay with the US military opening fire on unarmed men, women, children civilians?

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Well well considering that invaders are not civilians and that you don’t know for a for a face that they are all unarmed, yes I have no problem with it. After all they had no problem wanting to fight the Mexican army and police The easiest solution would be for them to turn around and go back to wherever they came from.

GrayTide said:

Since you have determined they are invaders; do they pose an immediate threat to the lives of Americans? If you determine American lives are in danger then would you be okay with the US military opening fire on unarmed men, women, children civilians?

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It occurs to me that Europe has been forced to deal with millions and millions of refugees and continue to manage their way through it, not without controversy, but continue to deal with it even in Italy where financial resources are limited.

Here in the US however we make a few thousand requesting asylum appear to be an invasion. We have the resources to easily and legitimately consider asylum request and either accept or reject them.

Needless to say if we had retained any relationship with Mexico we could have worked with them to provide refugee aide at their border and begin to work at the source to help these people stay in their own country.

This is only a manufactured crisis for the benefit of the Cheeto in Chief!

BamaJama17 said:

Well well considering that invaders are not civilians and that you don’t know for a for a face that they are all unarmed, yes I have no problem with it. After all they had no problem wanting to fight the Mexican army and police The easiest solution would be for them to turn around and go back to wherever they came from.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravans-children-long-trek-murky-dream-092426916.html





Look at those evil non civilians this Trump supporter is perfectly fine with being gunned down. Sadly forum rules prevent me from calling this poster what they are.

MattinBama said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravans-children-long-trek-murky-dream-092426916.html

Look at those evil non civilians this Trump supporter is perfectly fine with being gunned down. Sadly forum rules prevent me from calling this poster what they are.

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MattinBama said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravans-children-long-trek-murky-dream-092426916.html

Look at those evil non civilians this Trump supporter is perfectly fine with being gunned down. Sadly forum rules prevent me from calling them what they are.

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This is the philosophy of ... I have got mine you can go to heck! Bad things only happen to other people never to me and my family!

MattinBama said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravans-children-long-trek-murky-dream-092426916.html

Look at those evil non civilians this Trump supporter is perfectly fine with being gunned down. Sadly forum rules prevent me from calling this poster what they are.

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Yep - that 60 year old woman, all those pregnant women with small kids - they’re all either terrorists or murderers.
Just recognize the stupidity for what it is - you can’t fix it, and wasting time arguing with morons is futile. As long as you know who they are, avoidance is fairly easy.


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MattinBama said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/migrant-caravans-children-long-trek-murky-dream-092426916.html

Look at those evil non civilians this Trump supporter is perfectly fine with being gunned down. Sadly forum rules prevent me from calling them what they are.

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Yeah look at them. Then again you and GrayTide should take in a few dozen of them into your homes and take care of their every needs since the two of you are such staunch supporters of illegal aliens.

twofbyc said:

Yep - that 60 year old woman, all those pregnant women with small kids - they’re all either terrorists or murderers.
Just recognize the stupidity for what it is - you can’t fix it, and wasting time arguing with morons is futile. As long as you know who they are, avoidance is fairly easy.


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It’s the moronic talk like this is what helped get Trump elected. Also by the way I didn’t realize being a 60 year old woman or pregnant woman automatically disqualified them from being a murderer I mean they are plenty of them in prison but the possibility of them being able to murder somebody, yeah you’re right that is completely impossible.

BamaJama17 said:

Yeah look at them. Then again you and GrayTide should take in a few dozen of them into your homes and take care of their every needs since the two of you are such staunch supporters of illegal aliens.

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First off - wow. You are ok with gunning these refugees down in the street. And you aren’t the least bit ashamed of it.

How are these people illegal in any way? They haven’t even made it to the border yet. You keep using a term that I’m not convinced you fully understand.

NationalTitles17 said:

First off - wow. You are ok with gunning these refugees down in the street. And you aren’t the least bit ashamed of it.

How are these people illegal in any way? They haven’t even made it to the border yet. You keep using a term that I’m not convinced you fully understand.

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Invaders not refugees. They haven’t been displaced by war or some natural disaster. If you’re all for them coming into this country, you also need to take a couple of dozen them into your home and take care of them.

BamaJama17 said:

Yeah look at them. Then again you and GrayTide should take in a few dozen of them into your homes and take care of their every needs since the two of you are such staunch supporters of illegal aliens.

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BamaJama17 said:

It’s the moronic talk like this is what helped get Trump elected. Also by the way I didn’t realize being a 60 year old woman or pregnant woman automatically disqualified them from being a murderer I mean they are plenty of them in prison but the possibility of them being able to murder somebody, yeah you’re right that is completely impossible.

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BamaJama17 said:

Invaders not refugees. They haven’t been displaced by war or some natural disaster. If you’re all for them coming into this country, you also need to take a couple of dozen them into your home and take care of them.

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If you'd like I'd be happy to fix your avatar in photoshop with a KKK hood to more accurately reflect your views. I can even keep the sunglasses on it for you.

BamaJama17 said:

Invaders not refugees. They haven’t been displaced by war or some natural disaster. If you’re all for them coming into this country, you also need to take a couple of dozen them into your home and take care of them.

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This doesn't make any sense. They are immigrants not invaders unless you are using a toned down version of the word "invader" I literally don't see how you can call them that.

And,
1. If I had the space and money I would gladly take in immigrants that needed help.
2. In that case if you are for all of them going back home then you need to go volunteer to fix their countries. You know, since we are adding random requirements for having opinions here.

MattinBama said:

If you'd like I'd be happy to fix your avatar in photoshop with a KKK hood to more accurately reflect your views.

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If you’d like I’d be happy to replace your avatar with a hammer and cycle or the Antifa logo to more accurately reflect your views.