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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Boeing sounds like they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar today. They are remorseful they were caught as being the cause of so many deaths.
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    Boeing sounds like they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar today. They are remorseful they were caught as being the cause of so many deaths.
    They made the PR disaster even worse than it was by the deny, deny, deny tactic. I guess they took too many lessons from their pal, Trump. It was just so damned obvious from the beginning...
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    Oderint dum metuant - Lucius Accius

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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Excellent article. I can't say that I really learned a lot new, except for one tidbit, but it explains what happened in a manner anyone can understand it, whether he/she knows anything about aviation or software. Like a lot of flyers, I'd noticed the changes in the 737, to the point of actually wondering how they could still call it a 737. Then, I'd shrug and board. What I didn't realize until reading this article was that moving those huge engines so far forward created lift in and of itself. IOW, the plane is unstable as built. Without pilot or computer intervention, the plane would climb into a stall without the figurative stick even being pulled back. It's enough for me to avoid that plane, even after it's "fixed"...
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    Yah, I really liked the article as ANYONE can read it an understand the series of poor choices that got us to this point...
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Yah, I really liked the article as ANYONE can read it an understand the series of poor choices that got us to this point...
    As a technical writer, I was REALLY impressed with that.
    Last edited by jthomas666; April 20th, 2019 at 11:45 AM.
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Oh Lord! Watching "Air Disasters" by accident. Air China. They were flying an A300. The inexperienced 1st officer brushed the "go around" button by accident and the pilot couldn't physically manually overcome the computers for a normal landing, so the computers won and stalled the plane out by trying to raise the nose for a go around. The 1st officer was green and the pilot's experience was with 747s, which are not computerized like the Airbuses...
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Boeing knew about problems with the 737 Max the year before Lion Air crash

    (CNN)A new statement from Boeing indicates that the aerospace manufacturer knew about a problem with the 737 Max aircraft well before the deadly October 2018 Lion Air crash, but decided not to do anything about it.

    Boeing previously acknowledged that an alert system that was supposed to be a standard feature in the fleet "was not operable on all airplanes."But a statement released Sunday describes a troubling timeline that shows how long some at the company were aware of the problem before finally deciding to act.

    Boeing says its senior leadership and the Federal Aviation Administration did not know about the issue until after the Lion Air crash.
    This is the darkest timeline.

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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    This is one of those cases in which punitive damages serve a good societal purpose.

    (Lawyers to the tech guys: "Don't worry to much. If we screw it up, we'll just pay off the victims' families.

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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidewater View Post
    This is one of those cases in which punitive damages serve a good societal purpose.

    (Lawyers to the tech guys: "Don't worry to much. If we screw it up, we'll just pay off the victims' families.
    Said no lawyer, ever...
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Boeing 737 Max's Autopilot Has Problem, European Regulators Find

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    EASA’s checklist includes a number of issues that have been disclosed: the potential difficulty pilots have in turning the jet’s manual trim wheel,
    This may become a big issue. Not all of the airline pilots today have the same stature and strength as the test pilots of the 60's who first did the certification testing of the 737.
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    Re: Indonesia plane crash: All 189 passengers presumed dead in latest aviation disast

    Quote Originally Posted by Elefantman View Post
    Boeing 737 Max's Autopilot Has Problem, European Regulators Find

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    This may become a big issue. Not all of the airline pilots today have the same stature and strength as the test pilots of the 60's who first did the certification testing of the 737.
    The 737 Max doesn't even come close to being the same plane as the 737 of the 1960s, either. That's the major part of the problem...
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