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    What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    I have to say Ive been very surprised of the level of success Oeaux has had at LSU. He has instilled confidence in LSU and they are one of the most physical teams in the nation. A lot of it could be due to Arranda, but I think Oeaux is clearly a better HC than what he was at Ole Miss.

    But what if USC took the interim tag off of him after a pretty good season instead of going through the dumpster fire known as Steve Sarkisian. Would USC be relevant?
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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    He is too low brow for that school. Since he would not have been accepted by the boosters, it would never have worked.

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    I recall that USC was on a winning spree AFTER he took over, but I didn't know the inside causes other than SS was gone. He might have been an upgrade with the talent he had, but I think that was never going to happen for him there. The players lobbied for him. His players at Ole Miss did also. Players love that guy. But if O had been hired?? I think he would have built a good staff and recruited great players and would have eventually lost control of the whole thing. I guess he is learning as he gets older too. I just know that is what he did at OM and he was a recruiter at UT as well. Imagine what might of happened in a talent-rich environment like Southern Cal.

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenntiderman View Post
    I recall that USC was on a winning spree AFTER he took over, but I didn't know the inside causes other than SS was gone. He might have been an upgrade with the talent he had, but I think that was never going to happen for him there. The players lobbied for him. His players at Ole Miss did also. Players love that guy. But if O had been hired?? I think he would have built a good staff and recruited great players and would have eventually lost control of the whole thing. I guess he is learning as he gets older too. I just know that is what he did at OM and he was a recruiter at UT as well. Imagine what might of happened in a talent-rich environment like Southern Cal.
    Lane Kiffin was fired and he got the interim tag. They hired Sark before the bowl game, and Oeaux got hacked off and refused to coach the bowl game and jetted to LSU thinking he did enough to earn consideration for the job.
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    I don't know how he would have done at USCw, but he would have done as well or better than Sarkisian and Helton.
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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    The boosters on the left coast would not be able to understand anything he says. Can't you just imagine a press conference. "Coach O. can you repeat what you just said? Coach O. can you repeat that again? Coach O. do you have a degree from a school of higher learning?"
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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    USCw could have low balled him on his salary and with the savings could have hired a full time translator. Problem solved.
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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Coach O is a great fit for LSU. He is one of them. They love him, he understands the culture, and will most likely do well as long as they keep him there. Will he win a NC? Probably not. But I don't think he does quite as well anywhere else as he does there.

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    He would be better than Helton! I might be better than Helton!

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Worse than they are now. You or I could win 8 games a year in Baton Rouge with the talent LSU brings in every year. The tigers are good DESPITE Coach Yaw Yaw.

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    Worse than they are now. You or I could win 8 games a year in Baton Rouge with the talent LSU brings in every year. The tigers are good DESPITE Coach Yaw Yaw.
    I disagree. LSU is talented but they are not more talented than UGA. They won that because of coaching.

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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    Worse than they are now. You or I could win 8 games a year in Baton Rouge with the talent LSU brings in every year. The tigers are good DESPITE Coach Yaw Yaw.

    I disagree slightly only due to Orgeron's increased willingness to delegate. His strengths as a head coach at LSU are as a CEO type figurehead and a recruiter.



    Quote Originally Posted by uafanataum View Post
    I disagree. LSU is talented but they are not more talented than UGA. They won that because of coaching.
    Yes but not Coach O's coaching, specifically. Primarily it was Aranda that won that game for them. If they were able to get a top-notch OC in there to run an adequate offensive system, along with Coach O's recruiting prowess, they could remain a force for years to come.

    Now, by remaining a force I mean regularly placing second to fourth in the SEC West with a legitimate shot at winning the division once every two to three years, on average.
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    Re: What would USC be like had they gone with Orgeron instead of Sarkisian

    Quote Originally Posted by uafanataum View Post
    I disagree. LSU is talented but they are not more talented than UGA. They won that because of coaching.
    Maybe, but keep in mind that Fromm is not the kind of QB who can beat LSU's secondary. IMO, GA lost because Fromm played like garbage. GA got blown out because they gave up on the run too early in the game. Had they stayed the course the game would have been much closer, but LSU still wins because GA couldn't stop their run game.

    GA's defense is not nearly as good as they were last year.

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