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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    I didn't read the article because I don't wanna give the guy a click. But Tua sure didn't lock on the receiver at the end of the national championship game did he?

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow









    Yah- exactly the same throwing motion.
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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSCALOOSAHONOR View Post
    I didn't read the article because I don't wanna give the guy a click. But Tua sure didn't lock on the receiver at the end of the national championship game did he?
    Well, actually yah - kinda. He'd made up his mind where he wanted to go with the ball before the ball was snapped based on what he had seen from that coverage earlier. He looked the safety off with the intent of going to Smith the whole time.

    He goes through his progressions pretty well. Sometimes I think the pedantic criticism is that he trusts his pre-snap reads too much after the play has started. Part of that is thanks to our receivers being so dominant and almost always getting open. When he is willing to he can go through all of his reads with ease. We've seen him do it a number of times.

    But the guy's criticism that he just stares down receivers means he hasn't watched all his snaps. He stares down LB's and DE's on RPO plays. Typically those are the zones where the receiver will be running. If that's what he's talking about then he really doesn't know Tua. Multiple commentators have talked about how he fakes, looks off or goes through progressions on just about all of his non-RPO plays.
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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by Intl.Aperture View Post
    Well, actually yah - kinda. He'd made up his mind where he wanted to go with the ball before the ball was snapped based on what he had seen from that coverage earlier. He looked the safety off with the intent of going to Smith the whole time.

    He goes through his progressions pretty well. Sometimes I think the pedantic criticism is that he trusts his pre-snap reads too much after the play has started. Part of that is thanks to our receivers being so dominant and almost always getting open. When he is willing to he can go through all of his reads with ease. We've seen him do it a number of times.

    But the guy's criticism that he just stares down receivers means he hasn't watched all his snaps. He stares down LB's and DE's on RPO plays. Typically those are the zones where the receiver will be running. If that's what he's talking about then he really doesn't know Tua. Multiple commentators have talked about how he fakes, looks off or goes through progressions on just about all of his non-RPO plays.
    Presnap reads aren't a bad thing. Its why every team in the NFL and college do Presnap motion. And he didn't lock onto the receiver at all. He didn't even look his way till he was ready to release the ball. Locking onto a receiver is looking at him from the get go. Mentally locking onto him vs physically is two different things.

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSCALOOSAHONOR View Post
    Presnap reads aren't a bad thing. Its why every team in the NFL and college do Presnap motion. And he didn't lock onto the receiver at all. He didn't even look his way till he was ready to release the ball. Locking onto a receiver is looking at him from the get go. Mentally locking onto him vs physically is two different things.
    I didn't say pre-snap reads were bad things. They are only bad if what you saw pre-snap doesn't end up being right but you refuse to come off it. Tua has maybe only done that 5 times this whole season.

    And he did lock onto Smith. He knew before the ball was snapped that that was where he was going to go. NFL QB's do it all the time. It's not a criticism to say he did it in that scenario. He moved the defense early with his eyes because he knew he wanted to go to Smith. We've seen him do it multiple times sense. He'll look of a LB or safety to get a little more space for his guy. It's not an actual issue for Tua

    A negative example of this is someone like Blake Sims who had a really nasty habit of just staring Amari Cooper down and trying to force the ball in there. THAT is really locking onto a receiver.
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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    They are both left handed, both are QB, and played in SEC, that's all the facts I need to compare the two players.


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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    His view is his opinion and it is worth less than mine. At least I can see that the ONLY things that Tebow and Tua have in common are their choice of throwing arms and their playing positions. Other than that? Nothing in common. Oh yeah....both were recruited by Bama.

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by Intl.Aperture View Post
    I didn't say pre-snap reads were bad things. They are only bad if what you saw pre-snap doesn't end up being right but you refuse to come off it. Tua has maybe only done that 5 times this whole season.

    And he did lock onto Smith. He knew before the ball was snapped that that was where he was going to go. NFL QB's do it all the time. It's not a criticism to say he did it in that scenario. He moved the defense early with his eyes because he knew he wanted to go to Smith. We've seen him do it multiple times sense. He'll look of a LB or safety to get a little more space for his guy. It's not an actual issue for Tua

    A negative example of this is someone like Blake Sims who had a really nasty habit of just staring Amari Cooper down and trying to force the ball in there. THAT is really locking onto a receiver.
    Maybe its our definition of locking onto a receiver that's the issue. When I say and think "locking onto a receiver" I mean he is staring at him the whole time. From what I'm gathering from you when you say it is that mentally he was locked onto the receiver, though not physically (in this case) looking at him.
    So we are probably both right

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow



    I think he’s crazy! The throwing motion is not even close! On a lighter note, it’s not like he’s comparing him to Kyle Pennington. Lol




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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by Intl.Aperture View Post
    Well, actually yah - kinda. He'd made up his mind where he wanted to go with the ball before the ball was snapped based on what he had seen from that coverage earlier. He looked the safety off with the intent of going to Smith the whole time.

    He goes through his progressions pretty well. Sometimes I think the pedantic criticism is that he trusts his pre-snap reads too much after the play has started. Part of that is thanks to our receivers being so dominant and almost always getting open. When he is willing to he can go through all of his reads with ease. We've seen him do it a number of times.

    But the guy's criticism that he just stares down receivers means he hasn't watched all his snaps. He stares down LB's and DE's on RPO plays. Typically those are the zones where the receiver will be running. If that's what he's talking about then he really doesn't know Tua. Multiple commentators have talked about how he fakes, looks off or goes through progressions on just about all of his non-RPO plays.
    Looking the safety off is the exact opposite of locking on to your receiver...

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    LOL - fans of several NFL teams want their team to sandbag this year and next year to get Tua. This guy has to have an agenda. No way he really believes that tripe.
    Probably click bait is his agenda and you guys are clicking away. Me...couldn't care less what he said...

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTheory View Post
    They are both left handed, both are QB, and played in SEC, that's all the facts I need to compare the two players.
    You nailed it, absolutely nailed it, here's a cookie!!!

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    Re: Reporter - who claimed Tua Tagovailoa ‘overrated,’ compared him to Tim Tebow

    Both have the initals T.T. and ..... that is about it.
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