LSU/MSU Defenses Compared to Barn/Dawgs and Beyond
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That has been my thinking. Obviously there is plenty of films on MSU tendencies to pressure on passing downs that would enable a game plan that would get the ball out more quickly or add blockers. Six men are not going to block seven with any consistency so adjustments have to be made.
We can't run the ball, and I just don't see us beating UM by throwing it 50 times. Haskins might not finish the game.
Not sure if you can't run it or you don't run it? You're 100% correct though, you'll need that part of your game! GL B1G!!!
Our biggest advantage will come once we get past the barn and UGA...
NO MORE SEC REFS!
The constant holding on our WRs will have a chance at getting flagged. Every other conference, especially Big12 and PAC refs, call that penalty pretty regularly. They are use to more high flying offenses and tend to favor them.
NO MORE SEC REFS!
The constant holding on our WRs will have a chance at getting flagged. Every other conference, especially Big12 and PAC refs, call that penalty pretty regularly. They are use to more high flying offenses and tend to favor them.
Clemson has 4-5 guys on their DL that will be drafted in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Sound familiar? Michigan doesn't have that by a long shot. Point blank, I don't trust teams from the Pac, Big12 or Big10 when it comes to elite athletes like I do with the SEC and ACC.
I think MSU had the best defense we will see this year. Clemson's DL is probably comparable, but they also have not faced an OL or an offense remotely of our caliber yet. The ACC is historically bad. It was a joke for NC State to ever be ranked 16. I would rank AU's DL just below MSU. UGAs DL behind both. UGA has some talent spread around on defense, but they have shown weaknesses at times in both the run and pass.
Locks made no adjustments that were largely noticeable. They consistently brought more than we could block and we were still calling 5 step drop pass plays. Our last TD to Jacobs was a 3rd/4th option, but that swing pass alone could have killed them. No was picking up backs, except when we actually did call a RB Screen and MSU was disciplined enough to rotate over (plus their speed killed those screens). So, good news/bad news: we made no in game change, but we did not show any cards either.
Brown is our key to success running the ball...and I'm going to say Jacobs needs to be option 1A right now. I love Damien, but Jacobs is hitting the hole harder than anyone right now, which is the difference between 2 and 4 yards against speedier defenses.
Yup. I was watching 3rd quarter and 4th quarter. I was trying to figure out why Locksley didn't make adjustments or at least let Tua audible out of the play... Then I realized something: 1. They probably figured that as long we're up, we didn't need to show our cards since we were playing Auburn after Citadel. I was reading an article about Saban in the other thread... and let me copy this:
I'm willing to bet this might be what he wanted Auburn to do... bait them into doing that.
I love it when defenses make plays on us, and yet we still win pretty big. It just shows that even the better teams cannot stop us, slow us and mess with us yes, beat us..... NO. It must drive those teams crazy to get pressure, and sacks and still lose by large margins. Nothing more frustrating than to make plays and still lose, not by a few points but by a large margin. To this day the closet a team has gotten to us is 22 points, that is 3 TD's plus 1. How bad is it when the best they got cannot get within 3 TD's of this team? That has to hurt the opponents mindset. Not until the SECCG or playoffs do I see a team really pushing us for a win. I may be wrong, I have been many times, but this team is spoiling fans.
Clemson's defense this year isn't as good as Clemson's defense last year - and we all saw how that matchup turned out.
Michigan's defense - which has been tested enough to know it isn't smoke and mirrors - is better than both of the aforementioned defenses.
However, Clemson's offense looks to be much improved with Sunshine at the helm. Enough improved to beat Bama? Probably not.
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Watching the game live, two things about MSUs D stood out to me. They kept their safeties deep 10-12 yards most of the time and a lot of the pressure was coming from the edge. The tackle was blocking his guy but we didn't have a man to get the edge rush. It happened over and over even when Tua wasn't sacked. I also thought the play calling was the worst of the year. Very few of the backs out of the backfield. Scored a TD finally. The back should have been open all day. I think their plan was to not give up the homerun. I don't think we were as patient as we should have been.
I agree, but it ain't just our WR's... Our DL gets held ALOT..... and no flag.. burns me up, that they get penetration and you can obviously see the hold ( guy has arms wrapped around Buggs or Williams ) and NO flag. SMH..
I'd say they're close, but Clemson's offense has been considerably better (8.5 ppg) than UM's against a similar schedule strength (UM is 36th, Clemson is 46th).
I think Clemson is a more dangerous team than UM - I don't think Michigan gets a lot of points against an elite defense. The highest octane offense UM has faced is #30 Notre Dame, with most bing in the lower half of FBS in scoring. Clemson has beaten GT (17th in scoring offense) and Syracuse (7th in scoring offense).
That's good info and there is also the "been there and done that" factor that Clemson has in experience in bigger games.
UM, while talented, will be a little star struck if they get into the CFP. Teams that have been there and played in that environment would seem to have an advantage in my opinion.
Not sure I follow - Clemson has played (slightly) better offenses and has allowed (slightly) fewer points than UM in the process.
Offensive rank of teams Clemson has faced (excluding FCS):
Texas A&M: 60
Georgia Southern: 64
GT: 17
Syracuse: 7
Wake Forest: 45
NC State: 47
FSU: 112
Louisville: 118
BC: 33
AVG: 59th in scoring offense
Offensive rank of teams UM has faced:
ND: 30
Western Michigan: 35
SMU: 41
Nebraska: 41
Northwestern: 103
Maryland: 70
Wisconsin: 69
Michigan State: 118
Penn State: 25
Rutgers: 130
AVG: 66th in scoring offense
I mean, I think they're probably close on the field, but Clemson has been better against better offenses.
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