I'm about tired of seeing teams go after Tua's knees

RTR_UA#1 · Nov 12, 2018

Well, if you can't win... just see if you can hurt Tua.
How can the ref's and the replay officials NOT SAY the players going after Tua's knees is intentional?
Isn't it ILLEGAL to hit a quarterback below the waist like that?
LSwho did it and got away with it.....
Now Mr.sloppy state did it and got away with it.

I'm already tired OF EVERYONE ELSE saying Bama is getting all the calls......

I mean.... REALLY... I thought all these NEW RULES were put in place to protect players.....

If ANY quarterback goes down and appears hurt.... can't they VIDEO review it and start putting offending players on the sideline?

I KNOW officials can't see everything...BUT.... the cameras sure can!

B1GTide · Nov 12, 2018

FWIW, the MSU player who knocked Tua out of that game has said that he was not trying to hurt Tua, and that he would never try to purposely injury another player.

CrimsonNagus · Nov 12, 2018

If you are really not trying to hurt someone then you wouldn’t be diving, helmet first, at someone’s knees.

This happens way to often all over college football and rarely gets a flag. NCAA “talks the talk” about player safety but doesn’t “walk the walk”. The NFL goes a little overboard protecting QBs but college doesn’t do enough. There is a good middle ground that the NCAA needs to move towards by, first, getting refs to call the rules as written. That’s 2 games in a row where Tua was illegally hit low and neither were flagged.

B1GTide · Nov 12, 2018

CrimsonNagus said:
If you are really not trying to hurt someone then you wouldn’t be diving, helmet first, at someone’s knees.

This is not necessarily true. If you are trying NOT to hurt someone then you would never launch at them. The player launched at Tua. But, in my experience, players who launch are not so much trying to injure the other player as trying to hit them VERY hard.

So, do I think that he was trying to blow up Tua's knee? No. I do not. But do I think that he was trying to blow up Tua? Yes. He was.

81usaf92 · Nov 12, 2018

Then stop watching Alabama games this year because I guarantee you every opponent we play from here on out will try.

Intl.Aperture · Nov 12, 2018

CrimsonNagus said:
If you are really not trying to hurt someone then you wouldn’t be diving, helmet first, at someone’s knees.

This happens way to often all over college football and rarely gets a flag. NCAA “talks the talk” about player safety but doesn’t “walk the walk”. The NFL goes a little overboard protecting QBs but college doesn’t do enough. There is a good middle ground that the NCAA needs to move towards by, first, getting refs to call the rules as written. That’s 2 games in a row where Tua was illegally hit low and neither were flagged.

Devin White says hello from the locker room in the 1st half.

I think this just all goes back to a lack of consistency in officiating crews because they are not full time professionals.

Chukker Veteran · Nov 12, 2018

I would like to think if a player deliberately injured another player in the college game, if that person makes it to the pros karma will catch up to him.

BamaMan09 · Nov 12, 2018

To think players don't try to intentionally injure other players is very naive. I saw it happen all the time back in high school. Coaches know it happens, too. A lot of them encourage it or stand by idly.

rgw · Nov 12, 2018

B1GTide said:
FWIW, the MSU player who knocked Tua out of that game has said that he was not trying to hurt Tua, and that he would never try to purposely injury another player.

Don't buy it. Folks have been senselessly diving low on him for weeks. I'd take the little post-game scuffle at Bryant-Denny as a sign that many of our players see it the same as me.

BamaMan09 · Nov 12, 2018

Football is a violent, collision sport. Anyone who has played the game knows that basic fact. But there are also unwritten rules like in baseball. There are lines you don't cross. Cheap shots to a star player (or any player for that matter) will be met with retribution.

The Ols · Nov 12, 2018

He also got into a scuffle on the field after the game because of it and said he was coming back to T-Town to settle it...I'm all for giving someone a chance to explain, but looking at the video, he launches helmet first, with NO HANDS ever being a part of the "tackle." You absolutely cannot convince me that he was trying to tackle Tua...(That's a general statement, not pointed at you B1G.)

B1GTide said:
FWIW, the MSU player who knocked Tua out of that game has said that he was not trying to hurt Tua, and that he would never try to purposely injury another player.

Chechem · Nov 12, 2018

Well, if the LSU and MSU players were intentionally aiming for Tua's knee THEY WERE INEPT.
It's not that hard to hit a knee when a QB is stationary; MSU hit his thigh, and LSU hit his nards.
I played DE, and I know you don't need a sighting scope to hit a knee.
So I doubt they were intentionally aiming at his knee; rather were trying to sack him - which hadn't happened often before LSU game.

But I admit, when I watched the games, at first I thought they were trying for his knee.

Bamaro · Nov 12, 2018

B1GTide said:
FWIW, the MSU player who knocked Tua out of that game has said that he was not trying to hurt Tua, and that he would never try to purposely injury another player.

Yeah, I read about his tweet to Tua but his words, which 'sounded' sincere, didn't really match his actions so only he really knows.

Here's one view of it
https://sports.yahoo.com/tua-tagovailoa-leaves-game-hit-right-knee-231509283.html

Chukker Veteran · Nov 12, 2018

I understand a cheap shot and hate them as much as anybody.

When a team fields a qb who has a sore shoulder, the other team keeps that in mind when they tackle them. If they can hit the shoulder enough, he might be knocked out of the game.

It's a fine line between cheap shots and just playing hard nosed ball.

When a defender launches his body at the knees, lead by the helmet, that's over the line.

TNBama · Nov 12, 2018

I live in Knoxville, and I had people this morning comment on MSU targeting his knee. So when your rival fans see it and comment on it, its pretty obvious.

edwd58 · Nov 12, 2018

B1GTide said:
FWIW, the MSU player who knocked Tua out of that game has said that he was not trying to hurt Tua, and that he would never try to purposely injury another player.

If he truly wasn't trying to hurt him, there's no need to be on Twitter claiming he wasn't trying to hurt him - no apology would be necessary or expected. The tape doesn't support his claims and he knows how bad it looks. That's a classic example of "I didn't do it" when everyone knows you did it.

crimsonaudio · Nov 12, 2018

Bamaro said:
Yeah, I read about his tweet to Tua but his words, which 'sounded' sincere, didn't really match his actions so only he really knows.

Here's one view of it
https://sports.yahoo.com/tua-tagovailoa-leaves-game-hit-right-knee-231509283.html

Yah, I don't give a crap what he says, he went low on purpose. There's literally no other explanation.

Tidewater · Nov 12, 2018

Bamaro said:
Yeah, I read about his tweet to Tua but his words, which 'sounded' sincere, didn't really match his actions so only he really knows.

Here's one view of it
https://sports.yahoo.com/tua-tagovailoa-leaves-game-hit-right-knee-231509283.html

Thanks for that.
If he was not going for the knee, then I'm not sure why his helmet was lowering from wasteband level to knee level in the split second before the hit.

RT27 · Nov 12, 2018

I saw where one of our defensive guys tweeted about it, and basically said do that and just remember we have a defense that gets to QB's also. A shot over the bow, go after TUA and you may get it back from us. Not encouraging cheap shots, but if you give em, get ready to get em. The guys are not happy with Tua being cheap shots..

UntouchableCrew · Nov 12, 2018

81usaf92 said:
Then stop watching Alabama games this year because I guarantee you every opponent we play from here on out will try.

This.

If teams think their best chance to win is to rough Tua up and make him think about his leg then that's what they're gonna do. I don't like it but as long as they aren't trying to deliberately injure him (and I don't think that's what's going on) there's not much you can do about it other than hammer the refs and hope to get calls.

I'm about tired of seeing teams go after Tua's knees

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