The current NCAA 85 scholarship limit was put in place in 1992. The 1995 Nebraska team had no more scholarship players than the 2018 Alabama team.
All-time Sagarin ratings
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Seems like there's more parity in college football now than 20+ years ago so I assumed something had to change since then. I remember hearing so much about scholarship cuts in the past that I felt there had been more cuts since. Time sure passes quickly if what I'm remembering is from 1992.
We have an average a__ whipping spread of 35.6 pts, against average opponent scoring defensive rank of 71.
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For numerous reasons just related to Alabama this list is ridiculous. It's already invalid. You probably understand this, but those numbers are just related to the other teams in a specific season. Most of Saban's Bama teams would destroy that 1971 team. To say it's the best Bama team is ludicrous. As I noted in another post in this thread, IMO, it's not even a top 10 Bama team since 1956.
The fact that Kansas and K State were both ranked tells me a lot about the state of college football at the time.
The #4 team, 1971 OU team, lost to the #2 team, 1971 Nebraska, in an an all time classic game 35-31 I believe. That Nebraska team beat us in the Orange Bowl 38-7 when we were ranked #2 in the polls and it was probably not the that close. That was a quality 1 loss team.
Yah, I'm fairly certain it is. Looks like it was put together by someone either with an agenda in mind or that didn't understand how Sagarin's rating work. I can't figure out how the numbers would work outside of each individual season.
The craziest thing about this team is we really could be better next year. Especially if we get a couple surprise defenders to return
We lose the entire DL, Thompson, Jennings, Miller and maybe Mack......but otherwise, we are looking pretty good. On the O - Williams, PBacher, Irv, DH...but everyone else is back.
If we could get Mack and one of the DL guys to stay we'd be set.
We have some young guys on the DL who have flashed and a fantastic OL class coming in too. so OL and DL might have growing pains but they should be good to great.
Plus Tua and all the WRs being a year older. And outside DT our DBs should all be better next year. Plus getting Lewis and Allen back at OLB.
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IMO, there is a good chance Jennings returns and as you said possibly Mack. There could be others - you just never know, even QW has expressed a desire to return even with a high draft eval, though it's unlikely. Bama could be looking at the first possible 3 peat in history, there may be someone who want to be a part of that.
Sagarin Ratings aside, I say what I always say, you cannot compare teams, players, or coaches across decades. So many things have changed since 1950 (the modern era of college football) to now. My comments are based solely on the "eye test" and that is something even less comparable. In my years of following college football, the two best teams I have ever seen would be the 1966 Alabama team and the 1971 Nebraska team. It is ironic that the 1966 Alabama team beat Nebraska 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl; while the 1971 #1 Nebraska team destroyed an undefeated #2 Alabama 38-6 in the Orange Bowl.
Absolute truth - If 2018 Bama played 1992 Bama the '18 team would beat them by three touchdowns or more. The game ha changed and the athletes at Bama now are much bigger, faster, and stronger than they were just 25 years ago...
No doubt. The only way even to attempt the exercise is to compare a team's dominance against its peers on any given year. I recall that 538 did that a few years back. Pretty cool article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-rate-alabama-the-strongest-team-in-college-football-history/. The article suggested that, by one statistical measure, Bama had only to defeat Washington and <ahem> Clemson to be the strongest team vs. its peers of all time. One pick play away from the greatest...
i posted after that play "from the greatest team of all time to footnote in 2 minutes and 7 seconds." made a lot of people upset but its 100% true.No doubt. The only way even to attempt the exercise is to compare a team's dominance against its peers on any given year. I recall that 538 did that a few years back. Pretty cool article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-rate-alabama-the-strongest-team-in-college-football-history/. The article suggested that, by one statistical measure, Bama had only to defeat Washington and <ahem> Clemson to be the strongest team vs. its peers of all time. One pick play away from the greatest...
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