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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Fo...chool&State=GA

    here is the latest after ESD.

    this is pretty amazing that 2 out of the Top 10 are signing with Georgia.
    3 out of 15 are signing with Georgia.
    and finally 5 out of the Top 25 are signing with Georgia.
    Haselwood will most likely sign with Oklahoma.

    its great that Kirby and his staff can recruit nearby for top talent to replace the ones loss in his backyard, but for the talk about locking down Georgia once he became HC and be put to rest. Dawgbyet and whatever dawg fan on this board can spin it anyway you want to, but the proof is the pudding.
    teams far and wide will raid Georgia like its going out of business and Kirby is going to have battles on his hand.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    The past three years Kirby has been on fire in recruiting, as it's his best quality vs Richt. Losing Fields and a few others is part of the process. To keep filling up with talent some must move aside.
    He has no reason not to compete for undefeated seasons and Championships from now on. While I don't want to lose to UGA I'm anxious to see how they would handle success if, say he has a 2009 (Bama) type championship year and coaches move on and players become less motivated.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by IMALOYAL1 View Post
    The past three years Kirby has been on fire in recruiting, as it's his best quality vs Richt. Losing Fields and a few others is part of the process. To keep filling up with talent some must move aside.
    He has no reason not to compete for undefeated seasons and Championships from now on. While I don't want to lose to UGA I'm anxious to see how they would handle success if, say he has a 2009 (Bama) type championship year and coaches move on and players become less motivated.
    That's not going to happen until Coach hangs it up....

    Next time we play UGA it will be a blow out..... (mark it down! )
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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by IMALOYAL1 View Post
    The past three years Kirby has been on fire in recruiting, as it's his best quality vs Richt. Losing Fields and a few others is part of the process. To keep filling up with talent some must move aside.
    He has no reason not to compete for undefeated seasons and Championships from now on. While I don't want to lose to UGA I'm anxious to see how they would handle success if, say he has a 2009 (Bama) type championship year and coaches move on and players become less motivated.
    time will tell. but we have seen as well as the rest of the country, that Saban has proven time and time again, he will fill those vacancies more often than not with an upgrade in personal. can Kirby do that?? let's see when they reach the mountain top. its much easier being the hunter than the hunted.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    If you go to 247's rankings you can find a lot of information -- especially seeing how many signees and what states they are from. Clemson only signed 1 from SC. UGA signed only 7 from Ga. and AU sits at 4 from Alabama with 2 more firm commitments. We signed 7 from Alabama and then 4 from Florida and 3 each from Maryland and Ga.

    Interesting and insightful...
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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by Padreruf View Post
    If you go to 247's rankings you can find a lot of information -- especially seeing how many signees and what states they are from. Clemson only signed 1 from SC. UGA signed only 7 from Ga. and AU sits at 4 from Alabama with 2 more firm commitments. We signed 7 from Alabama and then 4 from Florida and 3 each from Maryland and Ga.

    Interesting and insightful...
    That is interesting. Also, we always sign kids from many states and this year is no different. We currently have kids from 9 different states and that may grow after the late signing period. Truly national recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiderJack View Post
    That is interesting. Also, we always sign kids from many states and this year is no different. We currently have kids from 9 different states and that may grow after the late signing period. Truly national recruiting.
    Nick Saban started with the strategy of I believe within 250 miles of campus for the first 3-5 years and then expanded that after the brand become national with our exposure.
    Kirby will get in trouble taking more kids from out of state because GA is a really great producer of talent and those high school coaches are tight knit. Kirby as implored the Saban national philosophy because UGA was already an establish brand by richt. Kirby is no better than richt im sorry to tell you that dawg fans but you fired one guy for losing the big game and replaced him with the guy that does the same. Richt had us in 12 too. Richt also recruited elite talents like the famed three for the black out game of 08. Now if the playoffs were in 07 richt wins a national title with that team catching fire. If Kirby ever gets fired he will have a hard time finding a job again with the things he's doing on the trail.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by jambama1 View Post
    Nick Saban started with the strategy of I believe within 250 miles of campus for the first 3-5 years and then expanded that after the brand become national with our exposure.
    Kirby will get in trouble taking more kids from out of state because GA is a really great producer of talent and those high school coaches are tight knit. Kirby as implored the Saban national philosophy because UGA was already an establish brand by richt. Kirby is no better than richt im sorry to tell you that dawg fans but you fired one guy for losing the big game and replaced him with the guy that does the same. Richt had us in 12 too. Richt also recruited elite talents like the famed three for the black out game of 08. Now if the playoffs were in 07 richt wins a national title with that team catching fire. If Kirby ever gets fired he will have a hard time finding a job again with the things he's doing on the trail.
    Look at the number of kids Pruitt took from like Cobb, Gwinnett, and Atlanta surrounding area. Yeah, some were 3 stars, but if you can build relations there, it's a good area with good kids.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by runtheoption22 View Post
    Look at the number of kids Pruitt took from like Cobb, Gwinnett, and Atlanta surrounding area. Yeah, some were 3 stars, but if you can build relations there, it's a good area with good kids.
    I agree with this. I'm high on Pruitt, and I think Mullen is going to get the ball rolling at UF as well. Kirby isn't going to have the run of the East for long. He's going to have rivals with real teams. Bama has had to deal with a murder's row of teams in the West for years. Arkansas, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, A&M, and the Barn have all had top ten or better teams over the last 10 year run. UGA is going to have some competition in recruiting and on the field from UTe and UF within the next two years. I expect UTe and UF to be much improved next year.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by jambama1 View Post
    Nick Saban started with the strategy of I believe within 250 miles of campus for the first 3-5 years and then expanded that after the brand become national with our exposure.
    Kirby will get in trouble taking more kids from out of state because GA is a really great producer of talent and those high school coaches are tight knit. Kirby as implored the Saban national philosophy because UGA was already an establish brand by richt. Kirby is no better than richt im sorry to tell you that dawg fans but you fired one guy for losing the big game and replaced him with the guy that does the same. Richt had us in 12 too. Richt also recruited elite talents like the famed three for the black out game of 08. Now if the playoffs were in 07 richt wins a national title with that team catching fire. If Kirby ever gets fired he will have a hard time finding a job again with the things he's doing on the trail.
    Jimbo Fisher called Kirby and staff out for the way they went after A&M's QB commit after Fields put his name in the transfer portal saying they gave the kid mis-leading info and lied to him. They are selling their souls on the recruiting trail and it is going to catch up with them soon.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    Quote Originally Posted by TiderJack View Post
    Jimbo Fisher called Kirby and staff out for the way they went after A&M's QB commit after Fields put his name in the transfer portal saying they gave the kid mis-leading info and lied to him. They are selling their souls on the recruiting trail and it is going to catch up with them soon.
    Yeah, I heard quite a few A&M fans were pretty hot about that

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    I think probably the “lock down your state” philosophy of years past of many SEC schools is becoming more the exception than the rule. In the last 10-15 years the SEC in football has become a national brand. Could UGA, UF, or TAMU be competitive nationally by locking down their respective states? Probably. But as CNS expanded beyond the “250 mile radius” to the “best player available and fits for us wherever they maybe” philosophy in the last 6-7 years, almost every SEC program has been forced to more of a national recruiting approach.

    Look at this state for example. In years past, Alabama and the Barn dominated a good recruiting base in this state. However, of the 39 players signed between the two schools in the early signing period, only 9 were from the state of Alabama. Yet, LSU, Florida, Clemson, UGA signed good players from this state. (Caveat: we know Auburn is technically West Georgia so we can take the “in state thing” with a grain of salt &#128521.

    As the top tier SEC programs continually expand to more national recruiting, the rest of the league will look to expand beyond their own borders.

    Main point: CNS with five National Championships in nine years has made all the SEC programs “run faster” in terms of national recruiting.

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    Re: Is Kirby Smart Really Locking Down Georgia??

    After looking at some numbers it's a lot closer than I thought in terms of just overall talent between UGA and Bama. Player development is another story but this is the ESPN 300 signees by SEC teams over the last three years. This does not include players committed to sign in February:

    Alabama 53
    Georgia 52
    LSU 34
    Florida 29
    Auburn 28
    Tex A&M 25
    Carolina 16
    Tenn 16
    Miss St 10
    Ole Miss 9
    Arkansas 5
    Kentucky 4
    Vandy 3
    Missouri 2

    Pretty stunning that we have roughly twice as many ESPN 300 recruits as AU and A&M and a really wide gap between us and LSU. UGA is the only team in our class talent wise..

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