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    Re: Players leaving early for the draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot172000 View Post
    LSU recruits well and a lot of them play in the league but they haven’t played in a bowl that counted for something in almost a decade. How often do you hear players leaving a playoff team before the semi-final?
    So the standard now is that players only have to stay with their team if they have something to gain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    So the standard now is that players only have to stay with their team if they have something to gain?
    I didn't create the standard, but it appears to be the case. I don't like it but that seems to be exactly what is happening in college football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    So the standard now is that players only have to stay with their team if they have something to gain?
    I don't like it, but in a lot of ways the bowl games are going back to being exhibitions that don't mean anything. They rose to prominent, they were integral to deciding champions, and now they once again are meaningless and relegated to being exhibitions. I find it unfortunate, but I do think what we're seeing is in part a reaction (there is also of course a rise in players thinking only about themselves).

    The simple fact though is either they have to figure out how to bring relevance back to the bowl games (I'd start with getting rid of the most meaningless ones), or this trend will only become worse. It will end up like the Pro Bowl, where no one takes it seriously and they have trouble getting people to participate sometimes. It's a shame, because the bowl games have such rich history.
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    In order for this to stop, the players are going to have to be honest about how they feel and call out their team mates. Players pretend that they support their peers in this stuff, but they do not. It bothers them as much as it bothers us.

    I would love to hear a coach call out one of his players for this. I would love for NFL GMs to speak out about it. Neither of those is going to happen.

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    Re: Players leaving early for the draft

    If they could connect something of value to the bowl games....that might change it.

    $500 per player to the winning team -- or something similar.....

    After all it is an exhibition
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    Players leaving early for the draft

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    So the standard now is that players only have to stay with their team if they have something to gain?
    If they think theyíre gonna go in the first round, pretty much. Anyone else is throwing away an opportunity to improve their draft stock.


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    Re: Players leaving early for the draft

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    If they could connect something of value to the bowl games....that might change it.

    $500 per player to the winning team -- or something similar.....

    After all it is an exhibition
    The problem with players making money for playing in bowl games, or National Championships is guys who play would be considered Pro's by the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Man Dan View Post
    The problem with players making money for playing in bowl games, or National Championships is guys who play would be considered Pro's by the NCAA.
    Ironically there's some really nice swag the players are allowed to get.

    I wonder if the ones sitting out get the stuff to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamacon View Post
    He's got a two year old daughter to think about. As a father I can see how that responsibility overrides the other. Believe me, I don't like it either BUT when you watch what happened to Milton at UCF and weigh that against probably millions of dollars in guaranteed money I certainly see not taking the chance.
    There's a special about him on ESPN, she's not hurting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seebell View Post
    ESPN article on Loss of Value Insurance. From last year.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...-get-insurance

    According to industry professionals, the general rule is that a top-10 pick will qualify for $10 million of permanent total disability with a $5 million loss-of-value rider. The 10 to 20 picks would be looking at $5 to $7.5 million of PTD and $2 to $3 million in loss of value. Picks in the 20 to 30 pick range would be around $5 million total disability.

    There are NCAA rules that allow athletics department officials to help secure policies and there are also funds available at each university that can be used to pay for the insurance policies if the programs want to allocate money for that purpose.

    If a player gets injured with LOV insurance, they could still lose a bunch of money.

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    Re: Players leaving early for the draft

    Looks like the rumors were true... Oregon QB Justin Herbert is returning to school rather than going pro. He was expected to be a top 10 pick.
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    Looks like the rumors were true... Oregon QB Justin Herbert is returning to school rather than going pro. He was expected to be a top 10 pick.
    Wow!
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    Re: Players leaving early for the draft

    So, dream of a national championship? To graduate?

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