Wasn't the current legislature and governor duly elected. That is the very definition of democracy elected representatives writing laws. There is nothing they can do to make that law permanent or irrevocable is there? The next group of duly elected people can pass laws to countermand this one. I don't see a problem. I am more worried about executive orders in our federal government by any party. That is a threat to democracy.
News Article: The balkanization of America...
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[Puts on tin foil hat(if tin foil existed in 1840)]
And look what happened to the Whig president after the election. Dead in a month. Pneumonia? Yeah, that’s what they want you to believe.
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I lived in Ripon, Wi. one of the birth places of the Republican Party for nearly two decades.
Rural Wisconsinites would generally be moderate Republicans throughout the state. Madison is reminiscent of a European community with the associated somewhat liberal bias. Milwaukee is the only city with a significant minority population.
I say moderate Republicans because Robert La Follette a progressive Republican led a agenda of improving education and public services that exists largely there today. The public educational system generally works very well throughout the state, teacher are among the highest paid in the US. A high school graduate can expect to enter the University of Wisconsin system and receive a still affordable education that would rank with the Ivy League.
State income taxes are in the 10% of income range but the quality of public education, health care, roads and community makes it a worthwhile investment.
Scott Walker and the strain of Trump Republicans who attempt to distort the one man one vote that has held Wisconsin in good stead for a century are at the core of the issue now.
That's the first time I've seen Freeze went to Liberty. What a perfect place for him. He can now see as many hookers as he wants, those evangelicals have evidently decided personal immorality doesn't matter any more.
I am not sure "balkanization" is the right term. Wikipedia defines "balkanization" this way: "Balkanization, is a geopolitical term for the process of fragmentation or division of a region or state into smaller regions or states that are often hostile or uncooperative with one another."
Maybe "tribalization" is more accurate.
Maybe "tribalization" is more accurate.
I'd mainly be amused, as it's rather unlikely the new governor would sign the bill.
Ah, so you're OK with naked power grabs, so long as they're legal power grabs.
So. Much. Derp.
First, your question is pointless, given that when the people voted, the governor had the authority to enact the proposals he was running on.
Secondly, the article never says, nor does it imply, that welfare policy and ACA were the only issues that mattered (Hello, Mister Strawman!); it points out that those were two key issues that the new governor ran on. In addition, the Wisconsin speaker of the house explicitly said that the bill was intended to keep the new governor from enacting liberal policies. Or, as Vox put it, the bill is "an explicit effort to weaken Democrats and prevent the new governor from doing what he was elected to do. [emphasis added]"
Finally, the suggestion that Wisconsin should have elected a democratic legislature is somewhat problematic, because the GOP is very good at gerrymandering, in Wisconsin and in the rest of the nation.
Apologies. Misread that multi- quote.
But it’s not being totally honest just saying they should just elect a Democratic legislature, for reason stated.
I spent time in Monroe (not far from Paul Ryan’s hometown) and those union people used to be Democrats. I know more than a few who still are. They viewed Reagan as a union-buster and still don’t trust Republicans.
Walker lost because the WHOLE state (not just gerrymandered districts) voted.
I could go on and on about ALEC and their subversive behavior and how they all should be hung, but that’s another topic.
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I do not think they are "attacks on democracy."
I don't even know that that means, but I'm sensing a bit of anger, with a helping of ad hominem.
Maybe the Republican majority in the legislature was elected to prevent the governor from doing what he wants to do.
Would you say Democrats do not gerrymander?
I see you are not familiar with the tribal edition of Animal Farm. "Four donkey legs good; four elephant legs bad." Pffft, so unlearned.
If he had been smart enough to use a burner phone for his whore-monger fetish, he'd still be making 5-6 million a year in Oxford.
He hit rock bottom, and Liberty is the culmination of the Redemption Tour.
i expect a co-ed to get pregnant. May be the 2nd virgin birth.
Not sure why you are responding to a blue post not directed at you. But, ok. Apparently you agree that both major parties are horrible piles of crap. Pleasantly surprised you're not a petty tribalist who believes one party is good, while the other is bad. Cool indeed.
I really do not think so.
Which point are you disputing, that Republicans oppose Democratic policy or that Democrats gerrymander?
"Naked" I assume you mean "obvious" or "undisguised." Would surreptitious have been better? A lame duck session to enact a law to prevent the incoming governor from acting is almost certainly unethical. Are you accusing politicians of acting unethically?
I'm not sure there is a point to be made here, but you do seem quite angry.
I would say rephrasing what someone said to ridicule it is a sure sign of a defeated wit.
How Democrats Gerrymandered Their Way to Victory in Maryland
Mother Jones produced a map of the gerrymandered districts.
The people in far western Maryland have little culturally in common with people in the DC suburbs who are reliably Democratic.
Mother Jones described the gerrymandering this way:
You surely trust that Mother Jones is not biased to the right.
I do not know why you are reacting so personally. You and I disagree on a political matter. I do not ascribe malign intent to that. You are not a bad person. In fact, I would credit your motivations to an attempt to care for the downtrodden and to help the less fortunate.
But you and I disagree, and that means a differences in facts, in reasoning, or in values. I find those differences interesting.
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