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Seems like this is an off the field thing so it could just be a good way to get different ideas like someone said earlier in the thread. If he was going to be the asst. head coach, that would call for outrage.
 
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B1GTide said:
The reality - he did not get fired because this player died. He was fired because he directly delayed treatment, which led to his death. Everyone here understands the risks of heat injuries, but there was a clear failure in this program, and this death might have been prevented.
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BIG..I don't dispute that, as head man, he probably needed to take the hit for the tragedy. It happened on his watch. My point is, that from all I have heard...and this was a MASSIVE story where I live...DJ wasn't personally involved in this decision by the fully negligent trainer and other assistant. So..I understand his getting fired...but do not think he is some bad apple that Bama can't touch. He will need to rehabilitate his career and I am quite certain he won't be making any policy regarding health and welfare of the players at Bama. So for those reasons, I am fine with the hire. JMO.
 
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Not a fan _at all_ of this hire and hope it's not a permanent one.
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I agree with you. If this were somehow to become a permanent hire at some point, how does this guy go into the homes of recruits and look the recruit and parents in the eyes and say, "Don't worry, we will see that your son is well taken care of"??
 
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ecraj said:
I agree with you. If this were somehow to become a permanent hire at some point, how does this guy go into the homes of recruits and look the recruit and parents in the eyes and say, "Don't worry, we will see that your son is well taken care of"??
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The same way Butch Jones did.

In other words......never. Because that's not part of his job description.
 
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I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people think he's going to kill players or something.

I covered this in the thread about Maryland, but he didn't shoot anyone, he didn't maliciously endanger anyone's life, etc... Does he bear some responsibility? Sure, because he was the guy that ultimately was supposed to oversee everyone, but there's a degree of scapegoating going on. I still contend that what happened was a freak accident, and even then he wasn't directly overseeing what transpired.

The way some people are reacting you'd think this was Ray Lewis or something... no wait, Ray Lewis, connected to a violent death is more welcome than this guy. People and their absurd double standards.

ecraj said:
If this were somehow to become a permanent hire at some point, how does this guy go into the homes of recruits and look the recruit and parents in the eyes and say, "Don't worry, we will see that your son is well taken care of"??
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Well he could go there and say I'm going to prevent all natural disasters while he is at it...
Remember, they had board review everything and recommend he keep his job.
 
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B1GTide said:
To clarify my opinion - if Saban thinks that Durkin can help Alabama win, then Saban will get exactly what he needs from Durkin without exposing the school to any risk. Win/Win.
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I have no doubt this will happen and I can deal with it. I am not worried about him putting our program at risk. We are the GOLD standard for taking care of players. Durkin visiting for a week or so will not change that. We better beat Oklahoma by double digits if that is why Durkin is in T-Town. I still don't like the decision, though.

ETA: Just saw the Cary Clark tweet. Makes me feel a LOT better. Durkin isn't on campus. GOOD.
 
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It is amazing to me that a head coach can be fired "without cause" when a kid died under his supervision but a coach who gets caught up in NCAA violations for whatever reason--not involving bodily harm--can have a show cause and not get hired for however many years. Free Tattoos--fired with show cause clause. Escort services--fired with show cause clause. Player dies because your staff withheld water and treatment for heatstroke and dehydration--fired without cause. Pretty shameful, IMO.
 
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It is amazing to me that a head coach can be fired "without cause" when a kid died under his supervision but a coach who gets caught up in NCAA violations for whatever reason--not involving bodily harm--can have a show cause and not get hired for however many years. Free Tattoos--fired with show cause clause. Escort services--fired with show cause clause. Player dies because your staff withheld water and treatment for heatstroke and dehydration--fired without cause. Pretty shameful, IMO.
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They did this to themselves when they paid for an investigation that showed him to not be at fault. Hard to go from that to firing for cause in a week. He would kill them in court.
 
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bamabelle1991 said:
It is amazing to me that a head coach can be fired "without cause" when a kid died under his supervision but a coach who gets caught up in NCAA violations for whatever reason--not involving bodily harm--can have a show cause and not get hired for however many years. Free Tattoos--fired with show cause clause. Escort services--fired with show cause clause. Player dies because your staff withheld water and treatment for heatstroke and dehydration--fired without cause. Pretty shameful, IMO.
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You ever read the Junction Boy's story? Shameful!!! Should have never been allowed to coach again!!! Thankfully though for us Bama fans he was! ;) Read where he, Durkin, had also been in contact with NFL teams. The man will and should be forgiven for his negligence and indirect role for the tragic death of one of his players. He will always bare the guilt for the kids death no matter what. That will haunt him and follow him the rest of his life everywhere he goes.


I understand that is not punishment enough for some and really not sure whether there should be more or not myself, don't know much about the circumstances and environment of the team he was running. But I doubt there would be near the blow back if it had been another school besides Bama that was getting his help from him, but who knows. Call me a homer but I trust coach Saban when it comes to his program and it being run correctly and safely. He knows what advisement to take and not when it comes to assistant coaches and other advisors and I doubt Durkin will disease his program with his presence. :)
 
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