I'm going to post a list of things I agree with.to be fair, that is true of just about every list found on message boards.
The point is that saying OU is the worse defense in history is probably a little misleading. The fact is many teams are statistically worse than OU's season including some of Bama's schedule.
I hold Tua in the highest regard -- no slight intended at him at all. My point is that freshman QBs may not show their true capabilities until they've had some P5 game experience. Rather, I was trying to support the notion that it MIGHT be misleading to judge Texas Tech's offensive proficiency based on the first game of the season in which Texas Tech started a new freshman QB.
Interesting that you chose 7 games, and I see why. Fromm's passer rating over the last 6 games was 208.9. Murrays score also went up when you only use 6 games, to 192.2. So the stats touted everywhere were correct - over the last 6 games of the season (which include the conference championship games), Fromm's rating was the highest in college football.Fromm had a rating of 163.8 over the last half of the season (last 7 games) and Murray had a rating of 191.2 over that same span.
Dang B1GTide, you are on top of things.Interesting that you chose 7 games, and I see why. Fromm's passer rating over the last 6 games was 208.9. Murrays score also went up when you only use 6 games, to 192.2. So the stats touted everywhere were correct - over the last 6 games of the season (which include the conference championship games), Fromm's rating was the highest in college football.
For everyone's information - he added the 7th game because it was the game against LSU. Since that loss, Fromm has been the best QB in the country.
He had to add the L8U game otherwise he would have looked foolish. We are going to have 16 days of this type of post from our sooner visitors. It is going to be a long 16 days. I have gotten tired of reading the same thing over and over. I may just check out until Earle starts the pregame thread. I will just stay in the threads that have nothing to do with this game.Interesting that you chose 7 games, and I see why. Fromm's passer rating over the last 6 games was 208.9. Murrays score also went up when you only use 6 games, to 192.2. So the stats touted everywhere were correct - over the last 6 games of the season (which include the conference championship games), Fromm's rating was the highest in college football.
For everyone's information - he added the 7th game because it was the game against LSU. Since that loss, Fromm has been the best QB in the country.
Not to be a smart-aleck, but most fans will say their team should have won a game that went to OT.Selmaborntidefan, that's a nice detailed football discussion. I appreciate it and I really can't disagree with many of your points.
I will say that prior to playing UGA last year, all we heard was that we were going to get snuffed by a real SEC defense. When UGA started their surge, I feel we got too conservative for a time in the second half. You're kidding yourself if you think OU had zero offense in the 4th quarter and overtime. I think most Sooners believe we should have won that game!
The only thing I'll say about that Sugar Bowl meeting a few years ago is that 2018 Kyler Murray is playing at a much higher level than 2014 Trevor Knight was. Other than that fact, there's probably not much we can apply toward this meeting.
I think the biggest thing most Alabama and other SEC fans take away from last year's Rose Bowl is that the "unstoppable Oklahoma offense" scored, after Georgia made defensive adjustments, a grand total of one - 1! - offensive touchdown in two quarters plus overtime.Selmaborntidefan, that's a nice detailed football discussion. I appreciate it and I really can't disagree with many of your points.
I will say that prior to playing UGA last year, all we heard was that we were going to get snuffed by a real SEC defense. When UGA started their surge, I feel we got too conservative for a time in the second half. You're kidding yourself if you think OU had zero offense in the 4th quarter and overtime. I think most Sooners believe we should have won that game!
The only thing I'll say about that Sugar Bowl meeting a few years ago is that 2018 Kyler Murray is playing at a much higher level than 2014 Trevor Knight was. Other than that fact, there's probably not much we can apply toward this meeting.
B1GTide, I believe your calculations are wrong. Let's look at the last 6 games of the 13 played:Interesting that you chose 7 games, and I see why. Fromm's passer rating over the last 6 games was 208.9. Murrays score also went up when you only use 6 games, to 192.2. So the stats touted everywhere were correct - over the last 6 games of the season (which include the conference championship games), Fromm's rating was the highest in college football.
For everyone's information - he added the 7th game because it was the game against LSU. Since that loss, Fromm has been the best QB in the country.
Maybe our academics are actually higher at Alabama than the other thread is giving us credit for. I understand exactly what you are saying. :smile:I didn’t realize reading comprehension was so hard. How many different ways can we explain the OU defense?
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DzynKingRTR, it doesn't matter if you go 6 games or 7. Fromm is playing at a high level. Murray's stats are still better -- see my post above.He had to add the L8U game otherwise he would have looked foolish. We are going to have 16 days of this type of post from our sooner visitors. It is going to be a long 16 days. I have gotten tired of reading the same thing over and over. I may just check out until Earle starts the pregame thread. I will just stay in the threads that have nothing to do with this game.
I am willing to stipulate that Murray is a very good QB. I expect OU will have the best offense Alabama has faced.DzynKingRTR, it doesn't matter if you go 6 games or 7. Fromm is playing at a high level. Murray's stats are still better -- see my post above.
Fromm had a rating of 163.8 over the last half of the season (last 7 games) and Murray had a rating of 191.2 over that same span.
The average opponent defense UGA faced over that span was 24.3 using FootballOutsiders S&P+, and OU faced an average 28.8 defense (lower is better).
The point might have been more valid if Bama hadn't blown those 5 teams out. Plus we're not facing any of them in the playoffs.The point is that saying OU is the worse defense in history is probably a little misleading. The fact is many teams are statistically worse than OU's season including some of Bama's schedule.
I hold Tua in the highest regard -- no slight intended at him at all. My point is that freshman QBs may not show their true capabilities until they've had some P5 game experience. Rather, I was trying to support the notion that it MIGHT be misleading to judge Texas Tech's offensive proficiency based on the first game of the season in which Texas Tech started a new freshman QB.
Probably felt about like us hearing other Sooner fans insisting they're going to score 60 points on us.Selmaborntidefan, that's a nice detailed football discussion. I appreciate it and I really can't disagree with many of your points.
I will say that prior to playing UGA last year, all we heard was that we were going to get snuffed by a real SEC defense.
Good thing that's not what I said now, isn't it?When UGA started their surge, I feel we got too conservative for a time in the second half. You're kidding yourself if you think OU had zero offense in the 4th quarter and overtime.
Now I was clearly referring to regulation, but my point still stands."Oh, we hung 48 points on Georgia!" No, you didn't. You scored 31 points in a great half, the teams went in and adjusted and the OFFENSE had ONE TOUCHDOWN after halftime.
I don't think anyone here doubts this fact, but then again I'm always amazed how many Sooners think the story of that game was Trevor Knight.I think most Sooners believe we should have won that game!
The only thing I'll say about that Sugar Bowl meeting a few years ago is that 2018 Kyler Murray is playing at a much higher level than 2014 Trevor Knight was. Other than that fact, there's probably not much we can apply toward this meeting.
Texas has the 54th ranked offense in the BIGXII, which is kinda telling. The 48 points they scored against OU was the highest of the season for them. In the 2 games prior to playing in the BIGXIICG they had a pair of 24 point outings against Iowa St and Kansas, so it's not like Texas was lighting it on fire this year.I am willing to stipulate that Murray is a very good QB. I expect OU will have the best offense Alabama has faced.
Honestly what worries me more is OU's defense picking up their game before the Orange Bowl.
Watching the WVU game, it looked like "tackling optional" football, but against Tejas, I have to say, the Sooner D played a good bit better than I was led to believe they would.
Um, nah, we are going to throttle them. You know itSpeaking solely for myself (although, I believe some share my thoughts), I fully expect a close shootout.
As we've all learned: there are lies, damn lies, and statistics - which are for losers.DzynKingRTR, it doesn't matter if you go 6 games or 7. Fromm is playing at a high level. Murray's stats are still better -- see my post above.