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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by ccc2259 View Post
    From all accounts the kid's a gamer and tough as nails.....his speed (or lack of) would seem to me to be the hurdle.
    4.6 / 40 for his size is pretty fast.....

    he ain't 15% "Acinonyx jubatus" but that's pretty fast
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    4.6 / 40 for his size is pretty fast.....he ain't 15% "Acinonyx jubatus" but that's pretty fast
    You're right about that.......but my uncalibrated eyes see his top-end speed would be a concern.......
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Padreruf View Post
    My point precisely...4-5 star athletes are usually fully mature physically...others may be still growing into their bodies, etc. The question of evaluation is really this: "How will that person look as a player in 2-3 years?
    At Alabama's level, coaches can't look at how a guy *might* look 2-3 years down the road. They need guys ready to play right away or within a year or two. Yes, some take their time to get in the rotation, but those guys already have some traits the staff desires.
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    At Alabama's level, coaches can't look at how a guy *might* look 2-3 years down the road. They need guys ready to play right away or within a year or two. Yes, some take their time to get in the rotation, but those guys already have some traits the staff desires.
    This for the most part. We can risk it on a guy like Q, Ingram this year, and Harris. Because we see they are already superior athletes. Or Bogle coming up.

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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    At Alabama's level, coaches can't look at how a guy *might* look 2-3 years down the road. They need guys ready to play right away or within a year or two. Yes, some take their time to get in the rotation, but those guys already have some traits the staff desires.
    Why couldn't they? Missing on a player or 2 is common, even for the best of programs. BTW, you added "might" -- I didn't have that. It's at best of roll of the dice...
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by ccc2259 View Post
    You're right about that.......but my uncalibrated eyes see his top-end speed would be a concern.......
    All I want is a lightning fast thirty feet, we can live with that.


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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Padreruf View Post
    Why couldn't they? Missing on a player or 2 is common, even for the best of programs. BTW, you added "might" -- I didn't have that. It's at best of roll of the dice...
    Because a staff never hits all 25 guys already, so they aren't going to risk not taking a top level guy on someone that isn't even comparable because in 2-3 years he might be better.

    I'm saying might because it's all a guess.

    Back to the original post about this - Saban uses the formula and system Gil Brandt started at the Cowboys. It has a nice track record, so why are the coaches going to reach on a few players each year based on what might be?
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by Padreruf View Post
    This is great...but then you miss the kids like Nick Mullens who is now starting in the NFL. You can't measure heart...at least that's what CPB said.
    It's like when you play Blackjack, you have to play by the rules no matter what if you want to consistently have a chance to win and Bama has "rules" in recruiting and we stick to it. Our success rate percentage is pretty amazing.

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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    https://247sports.com/Player/Charlie-Spegal-46058076/

    So I agree with what most of you guys are saying. But, according to 247sports he is in the 2020 class. The article is a little miss leading, unless of course,
    247 has it wrong. But with his size, speed (4.6-40), and strength would be a great short down, H-back, and blocker for the tailbacks. watch the video, lays a tremendous block on the DE.

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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonseal12 View Post
    https://247sports.com/Player/Charlie-Spegal-46058076/

    So I agree with what most of you guys are saying. But, according to 247sports he is in the 2020 class. The article is a little miss leading, unless of course,
    247 has it wrong. But with his size, speed (4.6-40), and strength would be a great short down, H-back, and blocker for the tailbacks. watch the video, lays a tremendous block on the DE.
    http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/char...Dg/default.htm

    He's a junior. So he would be a senior next year.
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    The kid has got to be pretty smart and of good character if he is being recruited by Navy. Perhaps he should stay in the Big whatever as they tend to be a tad slower than the SEC.
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Just for the record...I am 100% for CNS' metrics in evaluating talent. It works...just have to know that there are outliers in every situation. I am amazed when I watch a pro game to see how many players there are from lesser schools...
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    Re: Charlie Spegal: High School Back Still Seeking Attention from colleges

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCrimson View Post
    4.6 / 40 for his size is pretty fast.....

    he ain't 15% "Acinonyx jubatus" but that's pretty fast
    it's not slow, but it's not really fast either. At 220+ Brian Robinson ran a 4.4. D. Harris and Jabobs both run 4.5.

    That said, looking at this kids film and he appears to run very tight, almost like he's fighting against himself with every stride. A good running form coach might be able to smooth some of that out and take .1-.15 off his 40. He gets into the 4.5 range and I'd think he'd get noticed some.

    Also kinda have to wonder what the competition level is in his league. On some of those runs, either his OL is full of college prospects of the opposing DL and LBs are aweful because he wasn't touched till he got to the S a lot of times. Some of that was good vision and explosion from him, but some of it was bad D...

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