Three Clemson Players Fail Drug Tests
- Thread starter RTR91
- Start date
Traces of ostarine have shown up in perfectly legal and approved supplements. An Olympian had her positive test come from a salt tablet that was made in a factory that also makes ostarine supplements...
Also ostarine is legal (just bamned by ncaa and sports orgs) and readily available otc. It isnt apprived by the FDA but neither are most vitamin supplemets.
I actually do think there's a good chance this want intentional and probably came from a cross contaminated supplement.
Which is an excellent object lesson for athletes taking supplements leading up to the CFP, where testing is mandatory and universal. If you're saying this somehow absolves them from responsibility, I disagree. "Accidental" is not good enough, with these stakes...
To be clear, when Dabo sent players home before they had failed drug tests for the 2nd or 3rd time, this by school rules were going home anyway. He played it well to media like he was taking some high road moral stance, but in reality he had no say in the matter.
Yep, Neither the NCAA nor the NFL cares how you ingested it. It is up to the player to know what they are taking into their bodies.
So was it the 2nd or 3rd? Which one means he had no choice? May not want to guess here when you are so sure. Caine was suspended for breaking team rules, not a ped.
Should have looked a the date on the article— it was from August 2017. I suppose cross-contamination is possible but I don’t see how the players can prove it prior to the CFP. Any other scenario would involve either intent or negligence on the part of the players, and with this much on the line either should be a disqualifying factor.
There is a list of supplements that have been tested and certified to be free of illicit substances. This list is made available to athletes. There is simply no excuse. None.
There is, and by all counts these guys took nothing off the list/different than what they had been all year/career. The supplement and vitamin world is not regulated where products are tested, so cross contamination is a possibility. Again, maybe they were truly doping and just now got caught.
I would rather believe this is an isolated incident, the B sample will prove them clear. I try not to turn these young players into hero's, but I also like to believe them to be a classy group of guys trying to make it the right way.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I guess you have inside knowledge. I know nothing about them other than the failed tests...
Point, I think, he is making is it is an odd circumstance. Any amount of this drug in someone's system is wrong... and until proven otherwise they are guilty (none taking reps and can't play in game).
That said a 350 lb dude, who has been that size since he was 14 and has taken dozens or even hundreds of drug tests gets hit with a trace of an obscure ped before the playoffs... sure, maybe the 3 just failed to hide it and were trying to get away with it, and at this point they are suspended as that is how it should be. But not a stretch that some may think a mistake may have been made somewhere.
That said a 350 lb dude, who has been that size since he was 14 and has taken dozens or even hundreds of drug tests gets hit with a trace of an obscure ped before the playoffs... sure, maybe the 3 just failed to hide it and were trying to get away with it, and at this point they are suspended as that is how it should be. But not a stretch that some may think a mistake may have been made somewhere.
Only if the B sample is positive, which hasn't happened (yet).
I'm sorry, I think Dabo was right to tell Kelly Bryant he was not going to start, but I can't see anything good coming from this.
If the B sample is now negative, there's going to be chatter of, "Yeah, the NCAA rigged the testing so Clemson blah blah blah."
If it's positive, we would have found out anyway.
But if it does turn out to be negative then....
- you have a mark by some names now that no amount of "not guilty of it" will ever wash away
- you have created anxiety and distraction where none was needed
A world class political strategy move no doubt.
But the only reason he had to defend the players here is because he let it out. (This is where I get lost).
And then I remember Dabo doesn't even know the rules for onside kicks.
Fair enough, and I concur and say the same thing regarding Tide kids.
I'm not a mod, but I will advise you that all those expletives aren't going to be tolerated here.
Announcing a suspension for an A sample positive is just beyond dumb. I said the Christmas Eve announcement was correct.
The issue I have as SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN A LAB is that the P.R. from this is absolutely beyond stupid. "A" samples have been positive before. Say it's "an internal issue." But here's the catch: if what you're saying is true and St. Dabo, the Apostle of Holiness and Bag Men is right, then why is he telling us it's "a sliver" in light of the fact I seriously doubt he was told, "They're sort of pregnant" only on drug testing? How would he know this? (This is where the transparency claim falls apart).
All true.
It’s not about safe space. It’s about board rules. If you want to stay around, follow them.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Did you read the board rules before agreeing with them? Agreement with them is required to post here so I hope you read them and did not just click.
Latest threads
-
-
SIAP there was an article that Joe K interviewed for assistant coach
- Started by mlingerfelt31
- Replies: 8
-
Final Home Midweek for Alabama Brings Samford to The Joe- Started by Diamond Tide
- Replies: 0
-
-
-
