Dru Samia - why no penalty in CFP Semi?

owenfieldreams said:

Dru Samia is a senior and has finished his career at OU. The prevailing Sooner perspective is that Q was roughing the passer and Samia was simply trying to defend/protect his QB. Its simply a matter of opinion so not much to debate either way. Honestly, Sooner fans love the nasty, physical, relentless nature of our Oline. I think it's a manifestation of our disdain for how lacking in physicality our defense is. Samia was the co-winner of the Don Key award at OU presented to the player most representative of the qualities exemplified in all aspects of team play.

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Krymsonman said:

Hey, Q'***** was not late, and was not roughing. If someone had blocked him a little he wouldn't have had such a nice head of steam going. And Murray only came up to about Q's belly button. All he did was run over him. Samia should have gotten PF #2 and left the game.

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day-day said:

Players are not ejected for multiple personal foul calls. I think you are confusing this with unsportsmanlike penalties; the 2nd gets a payer ejected. Or, do you mean OU's coach would have pulled him?

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day-day said:

Players are not ejected for multiple personal foul calls. I think you are confusing this with unsportsmanlike penalties; the 2nd gets a payer ejected. Or, do you mean OU's coach would have pulled him?

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Krymsonman said:

No, that's my bad, I meant it should have been his second unsportsmanlike penalty which would mean ejection.

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Ole Man Dan said:

No it means the Refs refused to flag Oklahoma on a obvious penalty.
The Refs were not anything to write home about, but they are something to notify the governing body over the Refs about... Terrible NO CALL.

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KrAzY3 said:

I will say this, I actually have no problem with the Oklahoma player doing what he thought he had to (I'm willing to give him the benefit of a doubt in terms of motivation), to protect his quarterback.
I do have a major problem with the fact that an obvious and fairly egregious penalty not being called. That was simply dereliction of duty on the part of the refs.

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Supervir2 said:

A penalty in Samia would have been fair, but we’re clearly on two sides of this in regards to the tackle. I won’t continue to argue other than to say I watched some replays before I initially posted and again after. Their masks have to hit some. Your head goes toward the person tackling you as your body moves backwards until your body is stopped by something but you clearly see kyler’s head pop back. Do I think the form of the tackle was wrong? No. Do I think he targeted? No. Do I realize that Q is much larger and that impacts things? Sure. Did their helmets hit enough to knock kyler’s back? Yes, and in my mind, that’s a foul and I’d say the same thing if we did it to Tua.

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Supervir2 said:

A penalty in Samia would have been fair, but we’re clearly on two sides of this in regards to the tackle. I won’t continue to argue other than to say I watched some replays before I initially posted and again after. Their masks have to hit some. Your head goes toward the person tackling you as your body moves backwards until your body is stopped by something but you clearly see kyler’s head pop back before that which says Q’s mask/helmet is the cause. Do I think the form of the tackle was wrong? No. Do I think he targeted? No. Do I realize that Q is much larger and that impacts things? Sure. Did their helmets hit enough to knock kyler’s back? Yes, and in my mind, that’s a foul and I’d say the same thing if we did it to Tua.

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Supervir2 said:

A penalty in Samia would have been fair, but we’re clearly on two sides of this in regards to the tackle. I won’t continue to argue other than to say I watched some replays before I initially posted and again after. Their masks have to hit some. Your head goes toward the person tackling you as your body moves backwards until your body is stopped by something but you clearly see kyler’s head pop back before that which says Q’s mask/helmet is the cause. Do I think the form of the tackle was wrong? No. Do I think he targeted? No. Do I realize that Q is much larger and that impacts things? Sure. Did their helmets hit enough to knock kyler’s back? Yes, and in my mind, that’s a foul and I’d say the same thing if we did it to Tua.

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AlexanderFan said:

Exactly what part of the tackle constituted roughing? I'm thinking if you want to protect your quarterback you should start with blocking someone.


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Supervir2 said:

A penalty in Samia would have been fair, but we’re clearly on two sides of this in regards to the tackle. I won’t continue to argue other than to say I watched some replays before I initially posted and again after. Their masks have to hit some. Your head goes toward the person tackling you as your body moves backwards until your body is stopped by something but you clearly see kyler’s head pop back before that which says Q’s mask/helmet is the cause. Do I think the form of the tackle was wrong? No. Do I think he targeted? No. Do I realize that Q is much larger and that impacts things? Sure. Did their helmets hit enough to knock kyler’s back? Yes, and in my mind, that’s a foul and I’d say the same thing if we did it to Tua.

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