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    How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    I saw in an interview that DC Venerbles had been with Clemson for 7 years. How has he not been snagged for a head coaching job before now? Bama seem to lose their coordinators every year, but Clemson just chugs along. Looking at the rest of the staff, the majority have been with Dabo for over 6 years. That kind of continuity can't be bought. What is Dabo's secret? Don't these guys have any ambition to move up the coaching ladder? Thoughts?
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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    They are really robots? Like in Westworld?!

    Seriously, I'd like to know this answer as well.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Sometimes you reach the place in life where you are content with your standing. Perhaps that is the place Venables is at. When you are making 2 million a year to coach defense, and don't have the immense pressure of running the whole program, that is a GREAT place to be.

    It made a huge difference last night. One I am not sure anybody saw coming. So what is Dabo's secret? I think he's lucky to have someone like Venables. And I'm old enough to remember when he was run out of Oklahoma. Seems Clemson got the better of that deal by a wide margin.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Seriously, someone needs to hire away Venables ASAP. This is something Saban has to constantly deal with, if Alabama simply had staff continuity they'd probably have another championship (the Kiffin mess probably cost them one) or two.
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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    I used to think when Saban hired a coach, he expected a minimum of three years from the person. Now, I don't know if he even has that expectation...it seems like he hires guys who decide to try it at Bama for a year or two while shopping for a better job.

    I'm reminded of Gene Stallings remarks when Fran bolted. "He should have honored his contract." Sometimes in the pursuit of money we lose sight of the fact that coaches are supposed to set good examples for the young guys they coach.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Some don't want to acknowledge that Dabo has figured out a way to incorporate an "aww shucks" style into an environment that is laid back but also one that wins lots of games and now multiple championships.

    Someone else in another thread said that Venables likes that kind of environment. If that's his personality style he's found a perfect place to have both.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Quote Originally Posted by KrAzY3 View Post
    Seriously, someone needs to hire away Venables ASAP. This is something Saban has to constantly deal with, if Alabama simply had staff continuity they'd probably have another championship (the Kiffin mess probably cost them one) or two.
    I don't think he did anything that impressive last night to be frank. He goofed Tua twice and his DL talent took over the LOS in the 2nd half. I don't want to give a guy a pat on the back for giving up 450 yards because he caught the college QB with a trap coverage twice. He called an adequate defensive game for a DC getting fantastic support from his own offense.
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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

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    Sometimes you reach the place in life where you are content with your standing. Perhaps that is the place Venables is at. When you are making 2 million a year to coach defense, and don't have the immense pressure of running the whole program, that is a GREAT place to be.

    It made a huge difference last night. One I am not sure anybody saw coming. So what is Dabo's secret? I think he's lucky to have someone like Venables. And I'm old enough to remember when he was run out of Oklahoma. Seems Clemson got the better of that deal by a wide margin.
    Sometimes, people are just content to be EFFECTIVE assistants and do not need the STRESS of being the head coach. Less headaches, less media to deal with, don't have to deal with the boosters, the school's administrators, etc. Just giving your input on the things that affect you in your ROLE as assistant, coordinator, etc. And if you are paid a great salary, you can live a good life. Just look at the DC at Virginia Tech.
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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Prior to the start of the CFP, I heard an interview with someone in the CU camp and this exact question was asked. Two answers were given. First, they pay their assistants. Some years ago, CU offered to raise Dabo. Instead of accepting it, he insisted the amount be split among his staff. They’re paid such that no one will leave unless it’s a top tier job.

    Second, Dabo promotes family. Things in the FB revolve around family activities - not the other way around. The week the interview took place, the guy said they’d rescheduled a morning meeting to an hour earlier so one of the coaches could watch his little girl in a school program. That week, Dabo himself attended his son’s b-ball game at school. During the season, several assistants have sons who play HS football. On away games, those assistants stay behind while the team travels ahead, they attend their son’s games, and then they’re flown to the game site either later that night or early on Saturday.

    The guy being interviewed said that in the coaching profession, those two things were unheard of.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Quote Originally Posted by BAMARICH View Post
    Prior to the start of the CFP, I heard an interview with someone in the CU camp and this exact question was asked. Two answers were given. First, they pay their assistants. Some years ago, CU offered to raise Dabo. Instead of accepting it, he insisted the amount be split among his staff. They’re paid such that no one will leave unless it’s a top tier job.

    Second, Dabo promotes family. Things in the FB revolve around family activities - not the other way around. The week the interview took place, the guy said they’d rescheduled a morning meeting to an hour earlier so one of the coaches could watch his little girl in a school program. That week, Dabo himself attended his son’s b-ball game at school. During the season, several assistants have sons who play HS football. On away games, those assistants stay behind while the team travels ahead, they attend their son’s games, and then they’re flown to the game site either later that night or early on Saturday.

    The guy being interviewed said that in the coaching profession, those two things were unheard of.
    Mad props. He's creative for sure. I had a call from a person this morning who, ironically, knows someone whose son plays for Dabo saying some similar things. His style/ways/atmosphere attract certain types of people.

    And, I know it makes some people feel uncomfortable, but I appreciate that he wants to give God credit for his success.

    FWIW, I don't think God is a football fan and cares who wins, but I appreciate people who are successful remembering to give God glory for their success.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    Mad props. He's creative for sure. I had a call from a person this morning who, ironically, knows someone whose son plays for Dabo saying some similar things. His style/ways/atmosphere attract certain types of people.

    And, I know it makes some people feel uncomfortable, but I appreciate that he wants to give God credit for his success.

    FWIW, I don't think God is a football fan and cares who wins, but I appreciate people who are successful remembering to give God glory for their success.
    We went that route big time with Mike DuBose. I wonder if he and Dabo are still in touch with each other these days.

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    Re: How has Clemson kept hold of their staff?

    Ehhh ... change will happen ... its inevitable. Venables did an awesome job last night. But he like any other coach will either move on or find himself in a trend of not getting the job done. It happens. Chavis was the guy just a few years ago ... just saying.

    Most of our turnover has been either CNS making changes or for coaches to go and become HCs, mainly because other programs want access to someone that has knowledge of what makes this a successful program. I think eventually you'll see more of that with Dabo at Clemson the more successful he is. OSU has gone through a lot of that because of Myer being there as well. Just comes with being a successful program

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