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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWave View Post
    FIFY.

    Yeah, I know that was a bad call. But what did he really call there? He put the ball in the hands of our most reliable guy, which Scissum had been all year. I am not bad mouthing Scissum here either. I thought he was really really good for us at Alabama during his time. If you want someone to hold the ball and not blow it for you, Ed was the guy. Should you do it with a screen? No. Bad idea. But you put faith in the guy you knew you could. Only problem was, he fumbled it, which he never does. I remember during the '09 season, there had been talk during the UT came about just how reliable Mark Ingram was and how he NEVER fumbled. I think Danielson was the one saying it. That same drive, or maybe the next one, Ingram fumbled. He never does it, only he did.

    Personally, I would not have called that play but I do understand why Arians did. Had it worked out, he would look like a hero.
    ES didn't cause that loss. A stupid coaching decision did. Run the ball and punt there and even without the first down it's likely an Alabama win.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWave View Post
    FIFY.

    Yeah, I know that was a bad call. But what did he really call there? He put the ball in the hands of our most reliable guy, which Scissum had been all year. I am not bad mouthing Scissum here either. I thought he was really really good for us at Alabama during his time. If you want someone to hold the ball and not blow it for you, Ed was the guy. Should you do it with a screen? No. Bad idea. But you put faith in the guy you knew you could. Only problem was, he fumbled it, which he never does. I remember during the '09 season, there had been talk during the UT came about just how reliable Mark Ingram was and how he NEVER fumbled. I think Danielson was the one saying it. That same drive, or maybe the next one, Ingram fumbled. He never does it, only he did.

    Personally, I would not have called that play but I do understand why Arians did. Had it worked out, he would look like a hero.
    The bad play call rests with the guy who calls the bad play, not the guy who gets set up to fail on it, particularly when we are talking about college amateur athletes. I'd have less of a problem blaming Scissum were he in the NFL.....but I doubt that play would be called in the NFL save by the NY Giants.
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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    The bad play call rests with the guy who calls the bad play, not the guy who gets set up to fail on it, particularly when we are talking about college amateur athletes. I'd have less of a problem blaming Scissum were he in the NFL.....but I doubt that play would be called in the NFL save by the NY Giants.
    Yeah. I know what you guys mean here. And I don't totally disagree with you either. I have always said it was not a good call. But I do think putting the ball in the hands of your most reliable ball handler, which in my opinion was Scissum, was a good idea. The way they chose to do it...bad idea. I still don't think it was the worst call ever. Scissum was really good for us for a while (Alexander was better, but that's another story), and if he had gotten that first down, then it was game over. We don't know that Craig wouldn't have gotten a break and scored after the punt anyway. Or that the punt wouldn't have been blocked or returned for a TD. He made a reasonably safe call (screens are not viewed as dangerous play calls) that just did not work out.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles17 View Post
    ES didn't cause that loss. A stupid coaching decision did. Run the ball and punt there and even without the first down it's likely an Alabama win.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Good for him. I remember watching highlights of him on “Sideline” on Fox 6 (ABC affiliate then) with Rick Karle. I was stoked when he came to Bama. Looks like he’s done well and it will give me a different reason to keep watch on the Browns.


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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    I remember Freddie always wearing the baseball pitchers arm warmer between offensive series. I had never seen a QB do that and really haven’t seen it since.
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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Freddie had the biggest calves ever! Dude looked more like a OL/DL than a QB but could throw a ball through a wall.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    I remember Freddie always wearing the baseball pitchers arm warmer between offensive series. I had never seen a QB do that and really haven’t seen it since.
    Didn't he also pitch on the baseball team for a while?

    He was tough as nails. He should have beat Peyton Manning in Knoxville in 1996 too. Damn Jay Graham.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    Didn't he also pitch on the baseball team for a while?

    He was tough as nails. He should have beat Peyton Manning in Knoxville in 1996 too. Damn Jay Graham.
    I think that is why he had the arm warmer sling. Paging Selma, so he can help us remember this and a bunch of other little known facts about 1996.
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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    I think that is why he had the arm warmer sling. Paging Selma, so he can help us remember this and a bunch of other little known facts about 1996.
    Freddie did pitch for a season or two. Unfortunately by that time he had already had a couple shoulder surgeries if I recall. He became a junk ball/ off speed type pitcher. Really a shame for a guy who consistently hit lower 90s in High school

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Yep, he toed the rubber for the Etowah Blue Devils cruising in the 90s.

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    Quote Originally Posted by dvil doc View Post
    Yep, he toed the rubber for the Etowah Blue Devils cruising in the 90s.
    I remember the first time I stepped into the box against him. I had spent a good portion of the last inning working up the false bravado, as teenage boys are apt to do, trying to convince myself that if I could just make contact, the ball would leave the park. I will never forget stepping in the box and digging in, watching him start his windup, and the impossibly loud THWAAACK, the ball made as it hit the mitt for strike one. I knew at that instant that there was going to be no contact made by my Easton that day. I did come out of my cleats swinging at the next two pitches, though I never got close to touching one. Thoroughly humbled, I crawled back to the dugout with my tail between my legs...Thanks Freddie!

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    Re: Football Scoop: Freddie Kitchens to be promoted to Browns HC

    @bama 8ball, I have a similar story. I stepped in the box one afternoon against Steve Shields who spent 12ish years in the MLB. I’m from Gadsden and he from Hokes Bluff. I played for Gadsden Scaffold Colt League coached by Slick Arledge, a youth baseball coaching legend.

    Anyway, Steve had been mowing us down all game and I guess he got bored and shook off the heater and I recognized the curve as soon as I saw his decreased arm speed. The curve hung, I took a rip, and the ball landed just over the center field fence. I ran fast around the bases instead of doing a trot. I wish I had slowed down and enjoyed it a little more.

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