Back atcha.Thank you, NT17. I know you have your hands full as well. Our Mom's are lucky they have their children standing by in their time of need. It truly is a calling.
All the best to your Mom, sir....and to you and yours.
Back atcha.Thank you, NT17. I know you have your hands full as well. Our Mom's are lucky they have their children standing by in their time of need. It truly is a calling.
All the best to your Mom, sir....and to you and yours.
There's a phrase.......something like "keeping honest people honest."The White House has a fence around it. I recall several times in my lifetime people just hoping over the damn thing and getting on White House grounds. Only thing fences do are impede the people who really are disinterested in getting on the other side.
The problem here is that virtually all the real experts seem to agree that the wall is most definitely not the best security method. There may be spots where it may be helpful but that's all. The money needs to be spent where it will do some good. It's really about a campaign promise and an ego/image problem. He doesn't believe he can be reelected unless he delivers a wall...There's a phrase.......something like "keeping honest people honest."
That's how I view it too.
If someone ones to break through - they will find a way.
Fences and walls serve a purpose but they aren't the 'end all'.
from my understanding, in many of the spots where it may be helpful, there are already barriers/wallsThe problem here is that virtually all the real experts seem to agree that the wall is most definitely not the best security method. There may be spots where it may be helpful but that's all. The money needs to be spent where it will do some good. It's really about a campaign promise and an ego/image problem. He doesn't believe he can be reelected unless he delivers a wall...
Which is just crazy reasoning. How would building a wall be the deciding factor to like 120million votes? There is something wrong with that man's brain.The problem here is that virtually all the real experts seem to agree that the wall is most definitely not the best security method. There may be spots where it may be helpful but that's all. The money needs to be spent where it will do some good. It's really about a campaign promise and an ego/image problem. He doesn't believe he can be reelected unless he delivers a wall...
True and he's even hinted as much as an excuse to shrink the scope of the project. He's even parroted what was told to him earlier, that some of the territory is so rugged that nothing further is needed...from my understanding, in many of the spots where it may be helpful, there are already barriers/walls
You are overlooking something - the man won the EC by only 77K votes. You don't think he could lose that many of his base, if he doesn't deliver a wall of some kind? I think he's absolutely correct...Which is just crazy reasoning. How would building a wall be the deciding factor to like 120million votes? There is something wrong with that man's brain.
because the wall is a euphemism of sorts for brazen white nationalism, which is a selling point for a lot of our voters.Which is just crazy reasoning. How would building a wall be the deciding factor to like 120million votes? There is something wrong with that man's brain.
The problem here is that virtually all the real experts seem to agree that the wall is most definitely not the best security method. There may be spots where it may be helpful but that's all. The money needs to be spent where it will do some good. It's really about a campaign promise and an ego/image problem. He doesn't believe he can be reelected unless he delivers a wall...
in large part it is dysfunctional because one of the two parties in our two party system has made governmental dysfunction a goal, and voters keep supporting them and hand wave blame at "both sides"I don't doubt what you are saying - and have said it myself earlier in the thread - we should be working on fencing where it makes sense - taking input from the border patrol.
As far as the next presidential election - as i stated earlier in the thread - let's hope we get better candidates this time around. I'm not sure we will. I think our entire political system is so dysfunctional right now - it's ridiculous.
Back to the thread topic though - this thing isn't over with the government shutdown. Political gamesmanship is afoot!
And what is shutting the government down for over a month a euphemism for?because the wall is a euphemism of sorts for brazen white nationalism, which is a selling point for a lot of our voters.
I watched a video recently where they were increasing the height of the metal fencing between Tijuana and San Diego. It is somewhat easier to comprehend how a wall could be justified in areas where millions reside on either side of the border. That is without getting into a debate on the morality of a wall to begin with.The problem here is that virtually all the real experts seem to agree that the wall is most definitely not the best security method. There may be spots where it may be helpful but that's all. The money needs to be spent where it will do some good. It's really about a campaign promise and an ego/image problem. He doesn't believe he can be reelected unless he delivers a wall...
stupid, intransigent republicans?And what is shutting the government down for over a month a euphemism for?
A little off thread topic but IMHO, Trump was elected mostly because the voters were sick and tired of "politics as usual".in large part it is dysfunctional because one of the two parties in our two party system has made governmental dysfunction a goal, and voters keep supporting them and hand wave blame at "both sides"
It will suffice if they become apathetic and just stay home. That's exactly how he got elected...I don’t think people will abandon him if he doesn’t get the wall. What Democrat would they support instead?
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I don’t think people will abandon him if he doesn’t get the wall. What Democrat would they support instead?
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It will suffice if they become apathetic and just stay home. That's exactly how he got elected...
You do realize that he had two full years with complete political control to get his wall, if he/they had really wanted it. Likewise, the government could be reopened in a matter of a couple of days, if he would accept a clean bill and then negotiate with the Democrats. Instead, he's determined to prove he can push a Democratic House around by using hostages. Any reasonable person would say all of the gamesmanship it totally on one side at this point...I don't doubt what you are saying - and have said it myself earlier in the thread - we should be working on fencing where it makes sense - taking input from the border patrol.
As far as the next presidential election - as i stated earlier in the thread - let's hope we get better candidates this time around. I'm not sure we will. I think our entire political system is so dysfunctional right now - it's ridiculous.
Back to the thread topic though - this thing isn't over with the government shutdown. Political gamesmanship is afoot!