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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dayhiker View Post
    The searches I did before posting the question say he was db coach and wasn't promoted to DC until 93. I tried to find a listing of the 92 staff and the 92 media guide, but didn't have any luck.

    My recollection, though, is that he was the DC. That's what prompted the question.
    Finally found this article from 2011 that describes him as DC.
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dayhiker View Post
    This says he was DC: https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/...tition_as.html

    The wikipedia page must be wrong. I'm sure we're all shocked by that.
    Wiki page for the 1992 team doesn't even list DC title under coaches but does list Mal as the OC. Maybe it was understood but he was finally given the title in 1993?
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by NativeTider View Post
    With all due respect to Brent Venables, I will bet you a ham sandwich Brother Bill Oliver was the one who came up with Clemson's defensive game plan. From Clemson lining up in a zero defense to the creative coverages and jumping of routes, it had Oliver's fingerprints all over it. Much the same way he got into Torretta's head in '92. Oliver has Clemson ties and is reportedly close to Dabo. What do y'all think?
    I would be surprised if Oliver was responsible for implementing the plan, but he may have been asked to help with the design as some type of analyst or off-season visitor. That game certainly reminded me of our whipping of Miami who had one of those unstoppable, unbelievable offenses back in 92. Defense wins championships.

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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlh View Post
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    He was a UA DC in 92, but it was Arkansas.

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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    Wiki page for the 1992 team doesn't even list DC title under coaches but does list Mal as the OC. Maybe it was understood but he was finally given the title in 1993?
    That's what I wondered too. I wonder if anyone had the title in 92? I'm surprised at how difficult it is to find this information.

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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    No one had the DC title in 1992. But Oliver was the de facto DC. I can't provide documentation but I am certain I have read this over the years.

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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dayhiker View Post
    That's what I wondered too. I wonder if anyone had the title in 92? I'm surprised at how difficult it is to find this information.
    There was no DC listed in 1990 or 1991 either.
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    No one had the DC title in 1992. But Oliver was the de facto DC. I can't provide documentation but I am certain I have read this over the years.
    All the talk after the Miami NC game was what a great plan Oliver came up with. He may not have been listed as the DC (but I think he was) but he was the "coaching leader" of that great defense.

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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    I see some people aren't taking our loss well...
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    I thought about who beat a Nick Saban team as bad as Clemson did and it came to me, Alabama 31 LSU 0. It makes me believe Franchione put together Clemson's game plan on offense and defense, although I don't recall seeing the "smoke draw".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachJeff View Post
    There was no DC listed in 1990 or 1991 either.
    No wonder those teams were so bad.
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    I’ve heard Oliver speak in the last couple of years. Came across as in the early stages of dementia. I do not use that word metaphorically, and no, there was no alcohol involved.

    I would be shocked if he could name his starters from 1992, let alone out-scheme today’s offenses.

    We got out-coached, no doubt. But that had nothing to do with Bill Oliver.
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    Re: Was Brother Oliver Responsible for Clemson's Defensive Game Plan?

    I wouldn't be surprised if Chad Morris helped from an offensive standpoint. Former Clemson coach, had a modicum of success against us this season.

    But, as others have stated, I think Oliver is too far removed from the game to be "responsible" for Clemson's defensive game plan.
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