he made an immense fortune doling out the propaganda that has helped us get to this point.
No doubt about that at all. However, if he can help - the enemy of my enemy...he made an immense fortune doling out the propaganda that has helped us get to this point.
well, he will have to drop the constant appeals to white nationalism for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.No doubt about that at all. However, if he can help - the enemy of my enemy...
It seems a very worthwhile debate. It begs the question of...with a middle class in continual decline for more than a generation what remains to fuel the economic engines including Wall Street?
imo, a lot of folks are going to have to stop conflating middle class/working class with "white" if we want to have a meaningful debateIt seems a very worthwhile debate. It begs the question of...with a middle class in continual decline for more than a generation what what remain to fuel the economic engines including Wall Street!
The fact that we shipped all of our manufacturing jobs to Japan then to China and other locations over the last thirty years is one of the reasons we have this rise of aggressive white nationalism. There is little room for discussion of the finer points of affirmative action when we have shuttered major cities in the mid west where the middle class both black and white once aspired to the American dream.imo, a lot of folks are going to have to stop conflating middle class/working class with "white" if we want to have a meaningful debate
Jeez! I'm not giving him the benefit of anything. However, his current course cannot hurt...well, he will have to drop the constant appeals to white nationalism for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Well, I know who did it...The fact that we shipped all of our manufacturing jobs to Japan then to China and other locations over the last thirty years is one of the reasons we have this rise of aggressive white nationalism. There is little room for discussion of the finer points of affirmative action when we have shuttered major cities in the mid west where the middle class both black and white once aspired to the American dream.
i think if he stays on it, they will just remove his show from fox and get someone else in to push their propoganda and he will disappear down the memory hole.Jeez! I'm not giving him the benefit of anything. However, his current course cannot hurt...
IDK. Even Coulter, whom some blame for the president's present wall mania, has been saying some odd things lately. I watch with interest...i think if he stays on it, they will just remove his show from fox and get someone else in to push their propoganda and he will disappear down the memory hole.
their absurd worldview doesn't really coexist with reality very well. maybe seeing it in actual practice and the results it brings is causing their brain to short circuit.IDK. Even Coulter, whom some blame for the president's present wall mania, has been saying some odd things lately. I watch with interest...
Yes, we were. And Goldwater warned about the religionists...Always those damned bankers and the military industrial complex.
We were warned...right?
We lost these jobs mainly due to NAFTA, although it began after WW2 propping up Japan, and then sending mfg jobs to Taiwan. Used to be a man could skip college and enter the workforce at one of the local mfg plants and after several years make enough to buy a home and raise a family. Not any more, that whole option died when Clinton signed NAFTA, now without college it is next to impossible to be able to afford a home. What jobs there are don't pay enough and don't have benefits. The jobs gone to Mexico since the mid 90's have killed the middle class, now factor in Obamacare and not only are there not good paying jobs, unless you are very poor or very rich, your health care costs have skyrocketed.The fact that we shipped all of our manufacturing jobs to Japan then to China and other locations over the last thirty years is one of the reasons we have this rise of aggressive white nationalism. There is little room for discussion of the finer points of affirmative action when we have shuttered major cities in the mid west where the middle class both black and white once aspired to the American dream.
I do really feel sorry for you, both for your problems and your understanding of their genesis...We lost these jobs mainly due to NAFTA, although it began after WW2 propping up Japan, and then sending mfg jobs to Taiwan. Used to be a man could skip college and enter the workforce at one of the local mfg plants and after several years make enough to buy a home and raise a family. Not any more, that whole option died when Clinton signed NAFTA, now without college it is next to impossible to be able to afford a home. What jobs there are don't pay enough and don't have benefits. The jobs gone to Mexico since the mid 90's have killed the middle class, now factor in Obamacare and not only are there not good paying jobs, unless you are very poor or very rich, your health care costs have skyrocketed.
I used to make around $65K plus good benefits working in electronics mfg, one by one those plants in my area (Middle TN) closed to go to Mexico. I tried farming and raising cattle (no benefits) and barely broke even, now I work by the hour making about $30K with no benefits. There are millions like me all over the country and IMO that's one of the reasons Trump got elected. Trump ran on hope and change similar to Obama, but unlike Obama, things are getting better not worse. I am definitely worse off than I was 20 years ago and I know exactly what the reasons are. Democrats passing NAFTA and Obamacare, those two things have done more to hurt the middle class than anything else. Maybe not in every area but certainly in mine,
And the Bankers & Military Industrial complex knocked off at least one president...or so fables, rhymes and conspiracy theorists would have us believe. I believe it...Yes, we were. And Goldwater warned about the religionists...