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    Been a Tide fan since I was kid and I'm 56 now. I'll be going to my first game Sept 28th against Ol Miss and cant wait.
    Now as far as the team goes, the defense is terrible. I know they lost 6 starters from last years team etc... But why is the defense always out of gas? 3rd and 10...first down, 3rd and 16... first down. I also think Hurts should have come in the game to start the 3rd Q. Back to the Defense (or lack of) Oklahoma pretty much scored at will. If they didnt go down 28-0 so quick the Tide would have lost that game. Then they couldnt stop 2 Clemson freshmans. I think next year will be a repeat of this year...Great season and lose in the playoffs. The defense gives me little hope for next year. Change my mind.
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    Welcome to Tidefans, read the rules and post often. With all due respect, your opening post might be a little too much on the critical side. While I might agree, there are more on here who might not see it that way. Anyway, welcome aboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsechxx View Post
    Been a Tide fan since I was kid and I'm 56 now. I'll be going to my first game Sept 28th against Ol Miss and cant wait.
    Now as far as the team goes, the defense is terrible. I know they lost 6 starters from last years team etc... But why is the defense always out of gas? 3rd and 10...first down, 3rd and 16... first down. I also think Hurts should have come in the game to start the 3rd Q. Back to the Defense (or lack of) Oklahoma pretty much scored at will. If they didnt go down 28-0 so quick the Tide would have lost that game. Then they couldnt stop 2 Clemson freshmans. I think next year will be a repeat of this year...Great season and lose in the playoffs. The defense gives me little hope for next year. Change my mind.
    You seem to have your mind made up. Are you sure you are on the right forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsechxx View Post
    The defense gives me little hope for next year. Change my mind.
    Read the posts. Decide for yourself. We are not here to give you hope, but I can assure you that all have not fallen into despair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsechxx View Post
    Been a Tide fan since I was kid and I'm 56 now. I'll be going to my first game Sept 28th against Ol Miss and cant wait.
    Now as far as the team goes, the defense is terrible. I know they lost 6 starters from last years team etc... But why is the defense always out of gas? 3rd and 10...first down, 3rd and 16... first down. I also think Hurts should have come in the game to start the 3rd Q. Back to the Defense (or lack of) Oklahoma pretty much scored at will. If they didnt go down 28-0 so quick the Tide would have lost that game. Then they couldnt stop 2 Clemson freshmans. I think next year will be a repeat of this year...Great season and lose in the playoffs. The defense gives me little hope for next year. Change my mind.
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    Welcome and Hmmmm...

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    D has given up around 40-50 pts every time we have played clemson in the title game and bama is 1 - 2 in those games. Granted held uga far below that last year. Of course deshawn watson is and suspect trevor lawrence will be generational type talents so maybe not totally fair comparison. This years loss was totally inexplicable seemed as if everyone decided to have their worse game of the year on the same day. Pointing blame could look at nearly everyone and be correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ob1k3nobi View Post
    D has given up around 40-50 pts every time we have played clemson in the title game and bama is 1 - 2 in those games.
    Why do people exclude the CFP game last year. It is stupid. They were a playoff team but the game doesn't count because it came in round one? They were the #1 seed when you played them. You held them to 6 points. 6 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    Why do people exclude the CFP game last year. It is stupid. They were a playoff team but the game doesn't count because it came in round one? They were the #1 seed when you played them. You held them to 6 points. 6 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsechxx View Post
    Been a Tide fan since I was kid and I'm 56 now. I'll be going to my first game Sept 28th against Ol Miss and cant wait.
    Now as far as the team goes, the defense is terrible. I know they lost 6 starters from last years team etc... But why is the defense always out of gas? 3rd and 10...first down, 3rd and 16... first down. I also think Hurts should have come in the game to start the 3rd Q. Back to the Defense (or lack of) Oklahoma pretty much scored at will. If they didnt go down 28-0 so quick the Tide would have lost that game. Then they couldnt stop 2 Clemson freshmans. I think next year will be a repeat of this year...Great season and lose in the playoffs. The defense gives me little hope for next year. Change my mind.
    Welcome, my first Bama game was against Ole Miss 5 years ago and it was life changing. Iíve loved everything about Alabama football my whole life, but attending Bryant Denny will change your perspective on everything you think you know. A gameday in Tuscaloosa is like no other.

    As to the rest of your post, there are so many flaws in your logic. Doubt Iíll change your mind since it already seems pretty made up, but since you asked...

    1. Defensive conditioning was primarily due to poor depth. Poor depth was primarily a symptom of injuries. By the end of the season we were down multiple starters, especially in the back 7. Next years defense will be loaded with talent and the depth should be marginally better. It will all come down to health and offseason development.

    2. Monday wasnít our night, personnel changes wouldnít have changed that. One team had a perfect game plan, the other didnít. It was very different than the SEC championship where the deficit was primarily due to Tuaís injury, which made Hurts the key cog to a comeback. The championship game we played one of the best defenses assembled in recent memory and we got beat. Is what it is.

    3. As to next year, saying it will be a repeat is discounting multiple possible factors:
    A. You say we couldnít stop two Clemson freshmen, yet you donít consider that buried in our loaded class we might have a couple of game changers ourselves. Next years class is stellar, I think weíll see a couple of diaper dandies of our own.
    B. You arenít considering we had a young, first year D coordinator who in many ways was trying to figure out his system. Tosh will become a better DC as he gets more seasoned. Kirby had his missteps early on, and I believe that Tosh is just as talented as Kirby was.
    C. You also donít consider that itís nearly impossible to go wire to wire as favorites, which we had to do this year. We are not only going into next year with the motivation of having been embarrassed, but also the fire that we are no longer the favorites. I believe we are going to see an attitude like we havenít seen in years from next years defense.
    D. You forget that Saban is the most innovative coach in sports. Every time he loses, he comes back with a concept that revolutionizes his team. I donít know what that will be, if I did Iíd be Saban, but look out for things weíve never seen before.

    I canít guarantee that next year will be a championship year, but I can guarantee that it wonít be a repeat of this year. I think weíll be a far more complete team than we were this year, and I also wouldnít be surprised if we have better coaching when itís all said and done.





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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    Why do people exclude the CFP game last year. It is stupid. They were a playoff team but the game doesn't count because it came in round one? They were the #1 seed when you played them. You held them to 6 points. 6 points.
    Its not excluded from title games most semifinal games are historically blowouts with some exceptions. The thing is clemson had a sub par qb last year that was the difference. Their D played well it was their O that held them back mostly because they had no vertical passing game. When bama plays a team with vertical passing game the d bleeds points going back at least 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ob1k3nobi View Post
    Its not excluded from title games most semifinal games are historically blowouts with some exceptions. The thing is clemson had a sub par qb last year that was the difference. Their D played well it was their O that held them back mostly because they had no vertical passing game. When bama plays a team with vertical passing game the d bleeds points going back at least 4 years.
    Whatever - Alabama had no vertical passing game and no one was making excuses for them. With a regressing Jalen Hurts at QB, you destroyed Clemson. Stop making excuses for Clemson in that game. They were ranked #1. You held them to 6 points. It counts. Only people trying to make Alabama look weak don't count it.

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