Looking like the following for assistants...

teamplayer · Jan 19, 2019

oskie said:
... IMO, one loss, in an otherwise stellar season, does not make a championship caliber coaching staff all of a sudden a NON-championship caliber coaching staff :smile:

We won the SEC championship, so they were clearly championship caliber. A 28 point beat down definitely leaves a bad taste in your mouth, though.

GrayTide · Jan 19, 2019

IIRC, Kelly, an auburn man, turned down Gus to replace Muschamp.

BamaNation · Jan 19, 2019

Assistant coaching recruiting / hires = the new Jan/Feb recruiting period. Who knew? Maybe the early signing period allows some of this to happen earlier than it might otherwise.

While we have a LOT of movement, seems like a lot more across the country this year than usual for non-HC positions.

RammerJammer15 · Jan 19, 2019

BamaFanInTally said:
He took Pruitt’s defense from FSU and ran it into the ground. His defenses were wildly mediocre at best.

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If he is the DC, best case scenario is that he has a turnaround similar to Kevin Steele, Kevin Steele, the same guy whose defense gave up 70 in the Orange Bowl.

twofbyc · Jan 19, 2019

uafanataum said:
Alma mater is Auburn.

Where did Pat Dye graduate from?
Folks put too much emphasis on this with coaches IMO; especially those that aren’t “young” (20s-30s).
If they’re into becoming the best coach they can be, they’ll go where they can do that, alma mater notwithstanding.

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twofbyc · Jan 19, 2019

4Q Basket Case said:
Based on my second-hand experience, most of which is links from TideFans, all random idiots are on Twitter. There are some others on Twitter, too. But not a lot, and those poor folks must feel like prunes in a sea of rotting plums.

My solution is this: No Twitter. No Facebook. No Instragram. No Pinterest. No nothing anything like them. Not only do I not have an account on any of them, I never have. Only things close to social media I've ever been a part of are TideFans (time exceedingly well spent), and LinkedIn (my employer made me, and I'm not there more than a minute or two a month).

Also don't listen to talk radio of any kind, let alone sports talk radio, except at the top and bottom of the hour. Some good interviews then. But if they're, "taking calls," I'm on Sirius Classic Rock.

Life is short, and so much more enjoyable when not hearing the random musings of Charles From Reeltown and his buddies.

26 is getting very repetitive. Deep Tracks requires a channel change (as does classic vinyl).
26 just plays the same (great) songs by the same artists over and over and over and over... I finally cancelled my subscription, I’ll just play my cd’s.

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BamaFanInTally · Jan 19, 2019

RTR91 said:
JP was only in Tallahassee a season, though. Not like he was there six years and built the defense into a monster to have Kelly immediately destroy it.

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True. Pruitt took a good defense and made it better. FSU’s defense just declined each year after when Kelly was in charge. On the positive side he is supposed to be a good recruiter.

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81usaf92 · Jan 19, 2019

twofbyc said:
Where did Pat Dye graduate from?
Folks put too much emphasis on this with coaches IMO; especially those that aren’t “young” (20s-30s).
If they’re into becoming the best coach they can be, they’ll go where they can do that, alma mater notwithstanding.

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I don’t think it’s the 20’s and 30’s crowd putting so much emphasis on Alma matter I see a lot of posters in their 50’s and 60’s who still believe Dabo is coming to Bama because “moma called”. Most of the 20-30 year old fans don’t feel too concerned about where someone graduated mostly because the two most successful coaches in their lives didn’t play a down at Alabama. I think you see mostly folks alive at some point off CPB’s reign feel strongly about Alma matter hires.

CrimSonami · Jan 19, 2019

deliveryman35 said:
Looks like a rag tag crew coming together to me. Mixed emotions.

What's CNS to do? Rent Dabo's staff?

The staff we're seeing come together looks to be a mixture of stable "Not a Stepping Stone" coaches and some experienced "Up-and-Comers" from where I'm sitting.

I'm Good With It.

im4uainva · Jan 19, 2019

twofbyc said:
Where did Pat Dye graduate from?
Folks put too much emphasis on this with coaches IMO; especially those that aren’t “young” (20s-30s).
If they’re into becoming the best coach they can be, they’ll go where they can do that, alma mater notwithstanding.

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Pat Dye graduated from the University of Georgia (Do I win a prize?)

ROLL TIDE!

KrAzY3 · Jan 19, 2019

BamaFanInTally said:
True. Pruitt took a good defense and made it better. FSU’s defense just declined each year after when Kelly was in charge. On the positive side he is supposed to be a good recruiter.

I wanted to look the stats up to see what was going on. In 2011 FSU was 6th in total defense, in 2012 they were 4th, in 2013 when Pruitt arrived they finished 4th. We know Pruitt is good, but credit has to be given to Mark Stoops.

In 2009, before Mark Stoops arrived, Florida St. was 108th in total defense! 108! His first year he got them to 43, then 6th. The thing to pay attention to though is that by the time Charles Kelly arrives, he's now a couple years removed from what Mark Stoops did for that defense, and he didn't hit the ground running (didn't they lose some key guys though?). First year on the job, they tumble to 64th. He did right the ship though, they were 18th, 20th, and 20th. Solid if not spectacular and does demonstrate that he knew how to run a college defense.

This year (without him of course), Florida St. fell to 70th... he's no Mark Stoops, but he seems plenty competent.

81usaf92 · Jan 19, 2019

1) Everything that Jimbo buillt at FSU crumbled because of a painful divorce and FSU not playing ball with him like they should. More or less he was far less motivated to coach there from 2015-17. You can blame assistant coaches all you want but when the leader isn’t focused the entire team is in disarray.

2) Pruitt wasn’t great at FSU and UGA, but he showed he was very competent in how to defend the modern offenses. Both jobs are very good for real experience. So he earned every dollar of that 1.3 million dollar check. CNS was also far more familiar with him and his coaching style. It’s why I don’t see Alabama bidding with that kinda money for anyone less than venerables, Chavis, or Arranda’s caliber of defensive coaching.

Isaiah 63:1 · Jan 19, 2019

4Q Basket Case said:
...My solution is this: No Twitter. No Facebook. No Instragram. No Pinterest. No nothing anything like them. Not only do I not have an account on any of them, I never have. Only things close to social media I've ever been a part of are TideFans (time exceedingly well spent), and LinkedIn (my employer made me, and I'm not there more than a minute or two a month)...

How do you keep those darn kids off your lawn, though?

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bamacon · Jan 19, 2019

The funniest thing about this is that if you think whoever CNS hires is “meh” or bad you are essentially saying he doesn’t know what a good defensive coach looks like. I think most would agree that CNS knows a thing or two about defense so if a candidate for the DC passes his vetting I’ll be pretty ok with it.

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TideFan in AU · Jan 19, 2019

81usaf92 said:
1) Everything that Jimbo buillt at FSU crumbled because of a painful divorce and FSU not playing ball with him like they should. More or less he was far less motivated to coach there from 2015-17. You can blame assistant coaches all you want but when the leader isn’t focused the entire team is in disarray.

2) Pruitt wasn’t great at FSU and UGA, but he showed he was very competent in how to defend the modern offenses. Both jobs are very good for real experience. So he earned every dollar of that 1.3 million dollar check. CNS was also far more familiar with him and his coaching style. It’s why I don’t see Alabama bidding with that kinda money for anyone less than venerables, Chavis, or Arranda’s caliber of defensive coaching.

Priutt led FSU to the #2 ranked defense in 2013 that shut down AU in the 2nd half to win the BCSNCG and improving UGA's defense from 45th to 7th in 2 seasons is pretty darn good. Priutt was a super star DC from the moment he became one.

rgw · Jan 19, 2019

Pruitt is the best DC we had and the preceding two were top flight (Steele and Smart)

twofbyc · Jan 19, 2019

81usaf92 said:
I don’t think it’s the 20’s and 30’s crowd putting so much emphasis on Alma matter I see a lot of posters in their 50’s and 60’s who still believe Dabo is coming to Bama because “moma called”. Most of the 20-30 year old fans don’t feel too concerned about where someone graduated mostly because the two most successful coaches in their lives didn’t play a down at Alabama. I think you see mostly folks alive at some point off CPB’s reign feel strongly about Alma matter hires.

I meant 20-30 year old coaches, not fans.

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Harmost · Jan 19, 2019

For what it's worth, Tim Watts doesn't think Lake was ever seriously in play.

BamaFanInTally · Jan 19, 2019

TideFan in AU said:
Priutt led FSU to the #2 ranked defense in 2013 that shut down AU in the 2nd half to win the BCSNCG and improving UGA's defense from 45th to 7th in 2 seasons is pretty darn good. Priutt was a super star DC from the moment he became one.

He’s definitely been a superstar as a DC when he’s had the chance. He walked into a hot mess at UGA during Richt’s final year, and seemed to be the only coach really engaged in trying to hold things together.

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GrayTide · Jan 19, 2019

I personally never bought into Lake coming to Alabama; he is better off where he is for many reasons.

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