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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tideflyer View Post
    Whatever...say what we will, Dabo has obviously crafted a winning culture/system at Clemson. Sure kicked our butts. Now, could he replicate that elsewhere? We might well have a chance to find out in the three to four years or so.
    Why do people keep saying this? Dabo is not leaving clempson.


    As far as Venables goes, maybe he is waiting for someone to hold a stereo over their heads and play Peter Gabriel?
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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Everyone does. He's called the "get back" coach. Usually the S&C guy...can't afford the penalties. :-)
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    Although I agree, I will say Kirby was so out of control on our sideline, we had a guy in charge of wrangling him in with a rope tied to his belt!  It seems like that might be something coaches can overcome when needed.

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    If you've ever run your own company you'll understand why making less and having far less responsibility can be a worthy trade for some people.
    I get what you're saying but it's a lot easier decision for someone like Venables when his "making less" is still over $2M per year. I'm not begrudging him for what he makes but it's a far more difficult decision when you're talking about the average person deciding between more money / responsibility..

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tideflyer View Post
    Whatever...say what we will, Dabo has obviously crafted a winning culture/system at Clemson. Sure kicked our butts. Now, could he replicate that elsewhere? We might well have a chance to find out in the three to four years or so.
    I love how after they beat us this year all this talk in the media and elsewhere started about how much better and fun the culture is at Clemson compared to Alabama. Where was all that talk in 2018 when we beat them down 24-6 and held them to under 200 yards?

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonForce View Post
    I love how after they beat us this year all this talk in the media and elsewhere started about how much better and fun the culture is at Clemson compared to Alabama. Where was all that talk in 2018 when we beat them down 24-6 and held them to under 200 yards?
    To be fair, they all stayed, and maybe that is why they stayed. They clearly have a different culture over there. I am glad that it is working out for them. But I'd rather have Saban than Dabo and his culture.

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonForce View Post
    I love how after they beat us this year all this talk in the media and elsewhere started about how much better and fun the culture is at Clemson compared to Alabama. Where was all that talk in 2018 when we beat them down 24-6 and held them to under 200 yards?
    A clempson fan told me that one "didn't count, because it was not a title game".
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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    They are lucky to have Brent. As a business owner, I can tell you how much of a luxury it is for Dabo to have a DC of his caliber that is happy making good money not being the head man. It is a bigtime luxury. That said, Saban has built a program that does not rely on any one coach so much on either side of the ball. As long as we have a very good veteran defensive coach at the DC position we can have a dominant D because of the talent infusion every year. That is not to say I would not LOVE to have a Venables or Foster or Chavis but we really are just fine having a superb CEO that cut his teeth on the D side of the ball.
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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    A clempson fan told me that one "didn't count, because it was not a title game".
    99% of Clemson fans wouldn't suggest it 'doesn't count'. That game hurt... and frankly is a big reason why we won it this year (was obvious we needed a change at QB).

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerTown View Post
    99% of Clemson fans wouldn't suggest it 'doesn't count'. That game hurt... and frankly is a big reason why we won it this year (was obvious we needed a change at QB).
    Based on that logic and Historic Saban revenge games... Clemson might want to just reject any invitation next year to the playoffs

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerTown View Post
    99% of Clemson fans wouldn't suggest it 'doesn't count'. That game hurt... and frankly is a big reason why we won it this year (was obvious we needed a change at QB).
    Yeah, that seems to me to be more a media driven point, saying that Clemson won 2 of 3 championship games as if the CFP game last year somehow didn't happen. They will say that the two teams met 4 years in a row, but only talk W/L in the championship games.

    Silly media doing silly things.

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    To be fair, they all stayed, and maybe that is why they stayed. They clearly have a different culture over there. I am glad that it is working out for them. But I'd rather have Saban than Dabo and his culture.
    If the "they' you're referring to is the defensive line they stayed because they were not all first round draft picks like everyone played them up to be. They're great college players and a few of them will be first rounders this year but they didn't have 4 first round defensive lineman come back which was the narrative all year long. Ferrell is the only one who might have been first round from the group that came back. All that to say we've had players come back also. D Harris could've left. Jalen could've left. We had several this year come back who could have left. I just think it's lazy journalism when the media play up the fun and laid back culture of Clemson when they win but no mention of how it might be a negative when they lose. Really doesn't matter that much but it's the off season so we start going down these rabbit holes..

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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonForce View Post
    If the "they' you're referring to is the defensive line they stayed because they were not all first round draft picks like everyone played them up to be. They're great college players and a few of them will be first rounders this year but they didn't have 4 first round defensive lineman come back which was the narrative all year long. Ferrell is the only one who might have been first round from the group that came back. All that to say we've had players come back also. D Harris could've left. Jalen could've left. We had several this year come back who could have left. I just think it's lazy journalism when the media play up the fun and laid back culture of Clemson when they win but no mention of how it might be a negative when they lose. Really doesn't matter that much but it's the off season so we start going down these rabbit holes..
    They don't have 4 first rounders this year either. My guess is 2 will go first round.
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    Re: What is Brent Venables waiting for?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonForce View Post
    If the "they' you're referring to is the defensive line they stayed because they were not all first round draft picks like everyone played them up to be.
    Was talking more about the coaches.

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