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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    So - we have a long ways to go, still.

    What are your current thoughts as to who will win the nomination?

    I don't see Harris or Warren, myself. But stranger things have happened!

    That leaves Biden and Bernie as the next two in line. Biden right now seems more likely than Bernie.

    I don't really see any others.

    With that, Biden still looks like he'll get it.

    If he is elected, will that be OK for everyone, all things considered?

    Those who are saying "Anyone other than Trump" have already chimed in.
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    Bernie really doesn't stand a chance; Warren has many of the same positions, is more likable, and is actually a Democrat.

    I fear that, like last time, the press will treat Biden's nomination as a fait accompli,
    and ignore his many weakneses.

    I'm still on the Warren bus--and let's be clear: She's far more liberal than I would prefer. But of the all the candidates, she's the one most suited to look at a complicated situation with a critical eye.
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    I don't think Bernie has a shot but I'd vote for him over Biden if it comes to the 2 of them. I'd vote for basically any Dem over Biden.

    Warren and Buttigieg are the only 2 that I would be ecstatic about and my 2 favorite by a wide margin. That said I'd vote for others like Kamala if I had to.

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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jthomas666 View Post
    Bernie really doesn't stand a chance; Warren has many of the same positions, is more likable, and is actually a Democrat.

    I fear that, like last time, the press will treat Biden's nomination as a fait accompli,
    and ignore his many weakneses.

    I'm still on the Warren bus--and let's be clear: She's far more liberal than I would prefer. But of the all the candidates, she's the one most suited to look at a complicated situation with a critical eye.
    My guess is Warren has around 20 IQ points above the closest Dem rival. (Although Mayor Pete seems smart as a whip also.) While I don't agree with all of her positions, I have more confidence in her ability to think things through and take the right approach. And I like her fighting spirit.

    The first time Trump calls her Pocahontas in a debate, Warren could tell him "Mr. President, I'm doing my best to resist my impulse to scalp you...if ever anybody needed scalping... but I'm trying to control myself. I suggest you not provoke me. And if you pull that stunt of standing right behind me as I try to answer questions, I will make you regret it."

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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RollTide_HTTR View Post
    I don't think Bernie has a shot but I'd vote for him over Biden if it comes to the 2 of them. I'd vote for basically any Dem over Biden.

    Warren and Buttigieg are the only 2 that I would be ecstatic about and my 2 favorite by a wide margin. That said I'd vote for others like Kamala if I had to.
    This.

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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    taken with appropriate grains of salt

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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Of course, national polls really donít matter as it is about what happens in six or so states. If Biden is the nominee and Berniebots stay home or go Green again, we get another four years of Trump.


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    The midwest is probably more progressive left message receptive than centrist liberal message receptive considering open-market liberalism is what blew out their manufacturing industry. I'm not saying that they're red-tinted comrades but the Bernie/Warren message is just gonna resonate more there than America is Already Great liberal capitalism.
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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    Of course, national polls really don’t matter as it is about what happens in six or so states. If Biden is the nominee and Berniebots stay home or go Green again, we get another four years of Trump.


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    the daily/weekly drumbeat of how unpopular this narcissistic freak is, especially from the gop propaganda network, will take it's toll on him and he will feel the need to "correct" that. what impact that will have on the next election, i don't know.
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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    the daily/weekly drumbeat of how unpopular this narcissistic freak is, especially from the gop propaganda network, will take it's toll on him and he will feel the need to "correct" that. what impact that will have on the next election, i don't know.
    Can a narcissistic freak change their behavior? Under enormous pressure! I believe it will be more akin to Hitler's reaction... They don't deserve me so we will all go down with the ship!

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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Why this Never Trump ex-Republican will vote for almost any 2020 Democratic nominee

    I don’t care if Sen. Elizabeth Warren is a mendacious Massachusetts liberal. She could tell me that she’s going to make me wear waffles as underpants and I’ll vote for her. I don’t care if Sen. Kamala Harris is an opportunistic California prosecutor who wants to relitigate busing. She could tell me that I have to drive to work in a go-cart covered with Barbie decals and I’ll vote for her. I don’t care if Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is a muddle-headed socialist from a rural class-warfare state (where I once lived as one of his constituents). He could tell me he’s going to tax used kitty litter and I’ll vote for him....

    This is why policy doesn’t matter. I have only two requirements from the Democratic nominee. First, he or she must not be obviously mentally unstable. Second, the nominee must not be in any way sympathetic — or worse, potentially beholden — to a hostile foreign power. This rules out Gabbard, Williamson and maybe New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, although in de Blasio’s case it’s hard to tell whether he is unstable or just a terrible person.

    As for the rest of them, I am willing to live with whoever wins the Democratic primary process. I will likely hate the nominee’s policies, but at least I will not be concerned that he or she is incapable of understanding “the nuclear” or “the cyber.” I will feel like I have a shot at trying to convince my elected representatives that they should listen to the policy preferences of normal human beings instead of two old men wearing shirts that say they’d “rather be a Russian than a Democrat,” or a woman in a shirt indicating that she is willing to have the president grab her genitalia....

    It is a sign of how low we have fallen as a nation that “rational” and “not compromised by an enemy” are now my only two requirements for the office of the president of the United States. Perhaps years of peace and prosperity have made us forget the terrifying responsibilities that attend the presidency, including the stewardship of enough nuclear weapons to blow the Northern Hemisphere to smithereens.

    As long as the Democrats can provide someone who can pass these simple tests, their nominee has my vote.
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    Re: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Unfortunately it seems that there are more never trumpers in the op-eds than on the voter rolls.
    I owe it to the people to have a signature...so here goes nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    Unfortunately it seems that there are more never trumpers in the op-eds than on the voter rolls.
    I thought the report by Axios this morning on the build up in resistance to Trumps Immigration policies within corporate America to be a telling sign that there is fairly large upturn in anti Trump sentiment outside of his thirty something percent base.


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