Politics: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

B1GTide said:

The primary system is the reason that so many incumbent presidents get reelected. While one party rips itself apart, they other party unifies behind their guy. While one party spends money fighting among themselves to win a nomination, the other party spends all of its money trying to win the election.

The only presidents elected to office who lost in an attempt to get reelected in our lifetime - Carter and Bush Sr. Both were dealing with economic recessions during the election process, and our economy is decidedly not in a recession.

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CharminTide said:

Numbers were consistent with 2016 and way, way down from 2008.

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B1GTide said:

Sounds like they have a totally broken app that was not properly tested - though how that could happen in this era is beyond me.

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CrimsonNagus said:

Did you forget the blue font? This happens all the time in the software world. In fact, I can't think of a single software launch that didn't have problems. High profile video games launch each year broken and basically use consumers as beta testers. Quality testing is disappearing in the tech world, they (the bean counters) would rather push it out as quickly as possible and fix it later.

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Go Bama said:

Here’s What We Know About the Political Tech Company Behind the Iowa Caucus Snafu

Officials in Iowa Find Reporting Inconsistencies on App

Users reportedly had trouble logging in and using tech from Shadow, Inc.

www.adweek.com

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“Robust,” “scalable” not words that apply to Iowa Dem Caucus app [Updated]

Untested platform from campaign tech startup buckles under strain of caucus tallies.

arstechnica.com

It does not appear that the mobile app built for the Iowa caucuses was simple or scalable.
Because of the paper-based reporting process for Iowa's caucuses, the app required both manual count entries and (for backup purposes) an image of the paper-based vote tally. In caucuses, votes are public and involve headcounts of supporters rather than ballots cast, and the tally sheets are the only hard-copy record of the results. But multiple Iowa Democratic Party officials reported the application crashing during the upload of the photos of those paper tallies. And in at least three cases where the upload did succeed, the numbers recorded did not match the numbers submitted by caucus precinct chairs.
In an interview with CNN, Polk County Democratic Chairman Sean Bagniewski said that testing of the application last Thursday had gone less than smoothly and that he had told precinct chairs who couldn't get the application to work to call in their results to the Iowa Democratic Party's hotline. That hotline was jammed on Monday night, with some party officials giving up and going home before they had been able to report results.
Iowa Democratic Party Communications Director Mandy McClure said in a statement that there were no integrity issues but that "we found inconsistencies in the reporting of three sets of results. In addition to the tech systems being used to tabulate results, we are also using photos of results and a paper trail to validate that all results match and ensure that we have confidence and accuracy in the numbers we report."
It's not clear how much stress testing the caucus app underwent before it was first handed to precinct chairs last week. But the caucus app's requirement to handle images of final delegate tallies from each precinct and reliance on cellular networks of varying capacity were clearly variables that weren't fully explored before the app was shipped.

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jthomas666 said:

FWIW, I checked in with a friend of mine in Iowa, and the truth isn't nearly as nefarious as initial reports make it seem.

In past years, polling locations would call a land line with results. However, Iowa was attempting to implement a new voting app for precinct results--it passed all test with flying colors. The tabulation infrastructure was built around projected use of the app.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, almost all the precincts attempted to use the regular system of calling votes in. They didn't have the infrastructure in place to handle the calls.

Result=Chaos

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In an interview with CNN, Polk County Democratic Chairman Sean Bagniewski said that testing of the application last Thursday had gone less than smoothly and that he had told precinct chairs who couldn't get the application to work to call in their results to the Iowa Democratic Party's hotline. That hotline was jammed on Monday night, with some party officials giving up and going home before they had been able to report results.

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CrimsonNagus said:

That's troubling. Democrats need a large turnout to get rid of Trump. I know this is just the first step in the primary process but, I was hoping for signs of increased turnout.

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Bazza said:

Rut roh.......if true.......

Judicial Watch: Eight Iowa Counties Have Total Registration Rates Larger than Eligible Voter Population – at Least 18,658 Extra Names on Iowa Voting Rolls

The chart below details the eight Iowa counties’ registration rate percentages:

	Reg Rate	Total Population
Dallas County	114.8	80,864
Johnson County	107.9	144,425
Lyon County	102.5	11,745
Madison County	102.5	15,720
Poweshiek County	102.1	18,428
Dickinson County	100.9	17,000
Scott County	100.8	171,493
Warren County	100.5	48,630

I'm sure there's an explanation for this and it's not as nefarious as it seems.....

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Wikipedia said:

Founded in 1994, Judicial Watch (JW) has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Presidency of Bill Clinton, the Presidency of Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. The organization has described climate science as "fraud science" and has filed lawsuits against government climate scientists. JW has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims that have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. Courts have dismissed the vast majority of its lawsuits...

On 3 February 2020, the day of the Iowa caucuses in the Democratic presidential primary, JW president Tom Fitton suggested that voter fraud was afoot in Iowa by falsely claiming that “eight Iowa counties have more voter registrations than citizens old enough to register.” The false assertion went viral on social media. Iowa's Secretary of State, Paul Pate, a member of the Republican Party, debunked Fitton's claim by linking to official voter registration data.

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NationalTitles17 said:

Most likely just people who moved away. Interesting how JW is so interested in these things (removing voters from the rolls).

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CharminTide said:

Literally 5 seconds of searching yielded your answer, Baz:

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Bazza said:

Rut roh.......if true.......

Judicial Watch: Eight Iowa Counties Have Total Registration Rates Larger than Eligible Voter Population – at Least 18,658 Extra Names on Iowa Voting Rolls

The chart below details the eight Iowa counties’ registration rate percentages:

	Reg Rate	Total Population
Dallas County	114.8	80,864
Johnson County	107.9	144,425
Lyon County	102.5	11,745
Madison County	102.5	15,720
Poweshiek County	102.1	18,428
Dickinson County	100.9	17,000
Scott County	100.8	171,493
Warren County	100.5	48,630

I'm sure there's an explanation for this and it's not as nefarious as it seems.....

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B1GTide said:

JW is the kind of site that Rush and Sean frequent. The corrupt leading the corrupt.

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B1GTide said:

@Bazza still supports Trump.

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