I agree that 'many are seeing' it that way however its a combination of Dem ideas and Rep things that they want to hang on the Dems.
Politics: 2020 Dem POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread
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Some of what you say may be right in perception, but it isn't Trump's base or the Democrats on the left or at the center who are going to determine the outcome of the 2020 election. The outcome will be determined by the 40%-45% who are not affiliated with either group.
As for institutions under siege, no one has maliciously assaulted these institutions more than Trump. His attacks on the DOJ, FBI, all the national intelligence agencies, and the Democrat controlled House of Representative are unmatched in the history of this country. He has or is attempting to destroy all long standing foreign alliances and quite frankly has made a global mockery of the US.
Except for that whole "socialist" thing...…...It's hard to paint them as Right Wing or much of anything else...…………….they tried to be an amalgam of ideas, and tried to play both sides of the fence and failed at everything
Unfortunately, you can find things in either party that you can align with anything bad or that you disagree with...…….
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Even if one were to take what you posted at face value........are the current candidates using this narrative in their platforms?
And should what you wrote above be included with their campaign strategy?
If so, how would you phrase it, exactly? Pretend that you are doing a PR piece, if you will. I'm interested in your take.
Fair point, but if your party candidate is going to make promises......why make ones that seem to be contrary to what helps the every day person? Most of the things I listed are too far left to win over those who's votes are open for negotiation and capture, don't you think?
In the context of my posts...it doesn't matter what I believe as much as what the voters believe who will influence the upcoming election.
In a word......optics. That was the point I was trying to make.
Well, right wing propaganda or not.........my point was/is - if many Americans (including voters) have the perception this is what the Democratic candidates stand for - and want to make happen - that's damaging (IMHO).
Sure and there are many who share the same opinion. But it doesn't change the fact that if the Democrats blow this upcoming election because they themselves have the appearance that they want to take down much of our existing social structure/institutions....they have the most to lose, do they not?
Like I said....I'm just wondering why their campaign strategy doesn't seem to have any panache, if that's the right phrase.
If those optics were really believed by enough people, the election would be a slam dunk for Trump. It's not...
Up thread, I mentioned the national debt as something I would focus on but the other huge issue that I see as a potential game changer for any Dem candidate is climate change.
Both of those....our debt and climate change seem to be more important than a lot of stuff I see making the news.
As it pertains to strategy....I think you could garner a lot of interest/support from the voters, putting these two issues at the very top of the platform.
Both of those....our debt and climate change seem to be more important than a lot of stuff I see making the news.
As it pertains to strategy....I think you could garner a lot of interest/support from the voters, putting these two issues at the very top of the platform.
You start off your post with what amounts to disbelief in the veracity of my claims. You then ask me whether they are using these stories in their platforms, and if they aren’t, should they be?
This essentially amounts to asking me how does someone on one side of the aisle convince someone on the other side of the aisle to believe in facts or not.
At this point, America is so polarized that this would be tantamount to asking me to come up with a sales pitch to get Muslims to buy bacon.
I’m not a political strategist. If it is going to take a sales pitch such as the one above to vote DJT out of office, then Americans deserve him. Whether it is apathy, false equivalency, or plain spite, any of those three in enough measures could easily hand the election to him.
No, America has the most to lose if moron is reelected.
If the perception is that it is only because of right wing propaganda and not truth, which was my point.
You are criticizing a campaign platform that doesn't really exist yet.
Wow, right wing people interpret fines as open borders. Doesn't say much for the comprehension level if that's the case. Why, it must be open highways across the country since speeding only gets you a fine. There really is no speed limit at all.
As for free healthcare for immigrants, EMTALA. And ER's are much more expensive.
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There's not a clear holding at this point that crossing a US border to claim asylum is a crime. It's probably not...
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