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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by mrusso View Post
    Voting is not hard*.
    *If you're lucky enough to not be a targeted citizen for voter suppression

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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by MattinBama View Post
    *If you're lucky enough to not be a targeted citizen for voter suppression
    Anyone can vote who really wants to do so. It really is not that hard.

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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ledsteplin View Post
    Anyone can vote who really wants to do so. It really is not that hard.
    It's weird that they are trying so hard to suppress votes then if they're not getting any results from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    i think that is the best option. the past few years, we have had 2-3 weeks of early voting here in georgia.
    FWIW Republicans are trying to reduce early voting, absentee voting in targeted counties across the nation.

    A more specific example is your AG that was running for Governor or something was specifically targeting the poorer counties by cleansing the voter roles to make it take longer to vote in those counties.

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    Or changing the early voting period.

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    My whole argument is this. If you feel that it isn't hard to vote, then good for you. Your circumstances allow for it to be that way. By exercising your right to vote, you obviously appreciate and believe in the democratic process. To then turn around and not support increasing the accessibility and availability for people to exercise that same right, even if it isn't on the same day, seems duplicitous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattinBama View Post
    It's weird that they are trying so hard to suppress votes then if they're not getting any results from doing it.
    Who is "they"? I don't see that. I know Mitch is a knucklehead. But I don't see Republicans trying to suppress votes. That's totally ridiculous and not so.

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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    I wonder how many people getting the day off would actually go vote.
    Simple - ďI votedĒ sticker means paid holiday, lack of sticker means unpaid holiday.


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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ledsteplin View Post
    Who is "they"? I don't see that. I know Mitch is a knucklehead. But I don't see Republicans trying to suppress votes. That's totally ridiculous and not so.
    Read the post above yours.
    Yeah, itís a real thing happening all across the country where Republicans are in charge.


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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by twofbyc View Post
    Simple - “I voted” sticker means paid holiday, lack of sticker means unpaid holiday.


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    Good idea. Bribe people to vote.
    Architects do it with models.

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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    I've heard voting on a weekend, voting on a federal holiday, and voting polls closing at 11:59 pm, but it still doesn't make a college student or a shift working democrat anymore committed to going to the booth than a grandma watching Fox news 12 hrs a day. The truth is unless there is if there isn't a candidate that people are very excited about then folks are going to stay at home. It has very little to do about "WHEN" a vote is taking place as much as "WHO is running" Comparing Kerry 04 vs Obama 08 is pretty clear about that
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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ledsteplin View Post
    Anyone can vote who really wants to do so. It really is not that hard.
    Do you really, honestly believe that?
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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    I've heard voting on a weekend, voting on a federal holiday, and voting polls closing at 11:59 pm, but it still doesn't make a college student or a shift working democrat anymore committed to going to the booth than a grandma watching Fox news 12 hrs a day. The truth is unless there is if there isn't a candidate that people are very excited about then folks are going to stay at home. It has very little to do about "WHEN" a vote is taking place as much as "WHO is running" Comparing Kerry 04 vs Obama 08 is pretty clear about that
    So, you don't think voting on the weekend, making it a federal holiday and/or make it multiple days would impact voter turn out?

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    Re: Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by RollTide_HTTR View Post
    So, you don't think voting on the weekend, making it a federal holiday and/or make it multiple days would impact voter turn out?
    Not as much as many believe. I think most folks feel its a waste of their time, doesn't feel that they have a real power in their vote, or are not as caught up in the political debate to care. Its just my opinion, but unless we go toward something closer to a parliamentary type voting system for the federal where there are real stakes with everyones vote then I think voter turnout will still be low compared to European countries.

    FWIW I'm not advocating for a direct popular vote for the presidency to replace the EC, but something closer to a true 3 party system or a parliament type democracy.
    Last edited by 81usaf92; January 31st, 2019 at 02:54 PM.
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    Well, turtlehead comes out and says it...

    Quote Originally Posted by DzynKingRTR View Post
    Good idea. Bribe people to vote.
    Itís their civic duty; why not?
    Itís time people took some responsibility. Itís sad to see other countries have 85-90% plus voter turnout and we have hell to pay to get even half the country to vote.
    So, yeah, whatever it takes.
    And itís not as much a bribe for those who do as it is a penalty for those who donít (something Iíve always been in favor of).
    Hey, they can write in Alfred E Neuman for all I care, if they donít like the candidates. But shirking their civic duty is unacceptable IMO unless there are mitigating circumstances.
    Left up to me, anyone who didnít vote without a viable excuse should get ten lashes. But thatís just me.


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