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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonNagus View Post
    Didn’t Obamacare cover pre-existing conditions before Trump gutted parts of it?
    That’s why many Trump supporters were so upset. They got diagnosed with a pre-existing condition known as gullibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trump
    We're going to have insurance for everybody, there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us.They can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better. Source
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    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Source
    Can you guess which quote branded a president as a habitual liar?

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    America will never be a socialist country. ⚪️
    So just how much of a percentage of the federal budget being devoted to socialistic programs would you consider necessary before you considered America a socialist country.

    Here is a page that breaks down the 2018 budget. The article explains that in a budget of 4.407 Trillion USD 62% of that is mandatory spending, totaling 2.739 Trillion USD. It is this mandatory spending that was legislated and obligated to be recurring budgetary line items which covers payments for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

    I happen to be of the belief that these three programs are at their very nature socialistic in nature. All three are paid for through federal taxes upon citizens income. The government controls how much is taken out. The government controls what is done with that money while it is being held. The government even gets to determine who has access to the payouts of the money they collect. That pretty much seems to be the definition of socialism.

    You may not agree, but here is is a nice article that breaks down how Social Security works, and comparative ideals of a socialistic philosophy.

    In all fairness, not all of that mandatory spending may be going to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Here is an article that says in 2015 those three only accounted for 51% of the budget.

    To sum it all up, if you are willing to see Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as socialistic programs, whether the percentage of the budget is 51% or 62% how much more than either of those numbers would the percentage need to rise before you were willing to admit that America was already in many respects a socialistic country? My old math classes taught me anything over 50% was a majority.
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    We're going to have insurance for everybody, there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. That's not going to happen with us.They can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better. Source
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Source
    Can you guess which quote branded a president as a habitual liar?

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    why would anyone take bill o'really seriously about anything?
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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    Bill O'Reilly? Really?
    "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. - Ellen Parr"

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    It's commentary I found interesting. He makes some good points. YMMV....

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

    Like a pep rally!


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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Bazz, you are a friend and a respected poster, but most on here are not going to respect or put any stock in what a serial liar has to say.
    "My momma always said you got to put the past behind you before you can move on." Forrest Gump

    "The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    Bazz, you are a friend and a respected poster, but most on here are not going to respect or put any stock in what a serial liar has to say.
    Thanks for your post, Gray.

    I don't know if there is such a thing as a politician who doesn't lie.

    Thus, if you use that as a basis on who to listen to and who not to, you may as well give up....lol.....

    That said.....I post here only for entertainment purposes and perhaps some exchange of information and ideas.

    It really doesn't matter to me that anyone buys into anything I post. In fact - I respect those who care enough to post - regardless of their views - because by doing so - they demonstrate that they are trying to stay engaged.

    An analogy could be made by saying everyone should vote, regardless of who you vote for. Same here. The more posts the better. As long as they adhere to forum rules and policy.

    It's those who do not post we should be concerned with - maybe.

    Lastly - I put people in 3 groups:

    1. Anti-Trump - will not listen to anything he says
    2. Pro-Trump - listens to everything he says - (and agrees with all or most probably)
    3. Those in between



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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    in our country, there are a lot of folks across a pretty broad idealogical spectrum who don't find what is going remotely entertaining.

    but it's the best reality show ever, so as long as you are tuning in, it's all good.
    Last edited by 92tide; February 7th, 2019 at 01:35 AM.
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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by Bazza View Post
    It's commentary I found interesting. He makes some good points. YMMV....
    I've never found any time listening to him as anything but wasted, but, then, I'm an Independent...
    "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. - Ellen Parr"

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    in our country, there are a lot of folks across a pretty broad ideological spectrum who don't find what is going remotely entertaining.
    but it's the best reality show ever, so as long as you are tuning in, it's all good.

    Been like that as long as I can remember.......don't see anything changing either. Too much money to be made.

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    Re: The 2019 SOTU (State of the Union) - tonight at 9 PM ET

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I've never found any time listening to him as anything but wasted, but, then, I'm an Independent...
    OK.

    But as a fellow Independent, I find his commentary to be refreshing at times, because for me it cuts through all the rhetoric and distills things down to the basics.

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