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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q Basket Case View Post
    Since when has a little thing like the 10th Amendment stopped the feds from stepping into things that are reserved for the states?

    Fact is, support of states rights is more a function of whose ox is being gored.

    If it's something we want, like better roads, we want the feds' help even though it's the state's job to take care of the roads.

    If it's something we don't want, like the feds' interference with what we perceive to be none of their business, we invoke states rights.
    It's worth noting that the federal money came originally from the states, anyway, in the form of the gas tax...
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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    I have accepted the fact Doug Jones will likely lose his Senate seat. But can the Republicans not find someone decent?

    Roy Moore is Roy Moore.
    Tommy Tuberville is Trumpís lapdog.
    Mo Brooks said the women soccer players should leave the country and blamed rising sea levels on rocks.
    Bradley Byrne offered to buy tickets out of the country for the Congresswomen Trump called out.
    John Merrill says gay TV shows and wife swap shows are the downfall of society.


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    You're saying that because a no candidate is perfect, none are even decent.

    Neither Moore (a whack job of the first order) nor Merrill (a politically amoral person who will say or do anything to be elected) are decent. Tuberville is running because he wants to hear the roar of the crowd again, and Brooks doesn't give the outward impression of being all that smart.

    I'm hearing good things about Byrne, though. Mainly from a Democrat friend who's known him since high school. Says he's more of a classic conservative with a Libertarian streak than the recent ideological version of conservatism that has an unhealthy amount of religious fundamentalism mixed in. Unabashedly to the right of center, but more independent than you might think -- kind of like Neil Gorsuch on SCOTUS.
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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q Basket Case View Post
    You're saying that because a no candidate is perfect, none are even decent.

    Neither Moore (a whack job of the first order) nor Merrill (a politically amoral person who will say or do anything to be elected) are decent. Tuberville is running because he wants to hear the roar of the crowd again, and Brooks doesn't give the outward impression of being all that smart.

    I'm hearing good things about Byrne, though. Mainly from a Democrat friend who's known him since high school. Says he's more of a classic conservative with a Libertarian streak than the recent ideological version of conservatism that has an unhealthy amount of religious fundamentalism mixed in. Unabashedly to the right of center, but more independent than you might think -- kind of like Neil Gorsuch on SCOTUS.
    he may not have the unhealthy amount of religious fundamentalism mixed in (i seriously doubt that with any alabama gop'er), but telling folks to go back to their country (assuming he did what 67 posted above) is an unabashedly racist act. that's unlikely to be a major sticking point in that race though.
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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    he may not have the unhealthy amount of religious fundamentalism mixed in (i seriously doubt that with any alabama gop'er), but telling folks to go back to their country (assuming he did what 67 posted above) is an unabashedly racist act. that's unlikely to be a major sticking point in that race though.
    He didn't tell anybody to go back to where they came from. He said that, if they were unhappy with America, and felt that Socialism would be better, he'd be happy to fly them to Venezuela so they could live in a Socialist Paradise.

    “If AOC and the crew of Socialist Democrats are so angry with our country, then I’m offering to pay for their ticket to Venezuela so they can enjoy their failed Socialist Paradise,”

    Here's the full article:

    https://yellowhammernews.com/byrne-o...-in-venezuela/

    Big difference between saying (1) you don't belong here....go back where you came from, vs. (2) if you think your policies are so good, go live with their end result and see if you like that.
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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q Basket Case View Post
    He didn't tell anybody to go back to where they came from. He said that, if they were unhappy with America, and felt that Socialism would be better, he'd be happy to fly them to Venezuela so they could live in a Socialist Paradise.

    “If AOC and the crew of Socialist Democrats are so angry with our country, then I’m offering to pay for their ticket to Venezuela so they can enjoy their failed Socialist Paradise,”

    Here's the full article: https://yellowhammernews.com/byrne-o...uela/undefined

    Big difference between saying (1) you don't belong here....go back where you came from, vs. (2) if you think your policies are so good, go live with their end result and see if you like that.
    ok, thanks for the clarification. that's just stupid and not racist. he could also offer them tickets to germany, norway, denmark, etc. so they can live with the end result of policies similar to what they propose.

    he is a religious zealot though. even going so far as to spread lies about "after birth abortions"

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    For most of the history of our country, it was widely accepted, as I firmly believe now, that life begins at conception, that we are all fearfully and wonderfully made in God’s image. The thought of prematurely ending a pregnancy was considered in stark, unreconcilable contrast to the principles of our founding of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Support for the rights of the unborn was not a partisan political issue. The taking of an innocent life created by God was wrong and always would be.

    How times have changed! Since Roe v. Wade, support for abortion has steadily grown stronger within the Democratic Party. Today, with the party almost completely taken over by its radical, progressive wing, abortion has become a litmus test for candidates. Whether its late-term abortions or even so-called after-birth abortions – what we in Alabama would call murder – Democrats seem to be trying to outdo one another by how far outside of the mainstream they can fall on this issue.
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    For the record, my original comment was that Byrne offered to buy tickets out of the country for the women Trump called out. Which is exactly what he said. Not racist, but he was piggybacking on Trumpís racist comments.

    I find the whole ďAmerica, love it or leave itĒ attitude disturbing. I do not want to live in a country I am forced to love. Byrneís comment is a subtle way of attacking free speech. Nobody (at least not me) told Trump he was being anti-American for not loving Obamaís policies. Nobody told him to go back to Germany or Scotland.

    So, no, I donít want someone with Byrneís viewpoint representing me. If he had spoken out against Trumpís comments and said while he disagreed with their socialist politics, he welcomed them into the House and thanked them for contributing to the marketplace of ideas, I would be seriously considering voting for him.

    But this is Alabama and the idiots who comment on Yellowhammer News would be calling him a RINO.


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    Re: ...Alabama...sigh...you've done it again

    Quote Originally Posted by 4Q Basket Case View Post
    Since when has a little thing like the 10th Amendment stopped the feds from stepping into things that are reserved for the states?

    Fact is, support of states rights is more a function of whose ox is being gored.

    If it's something we want, like better roads, we want the feds' help even though it's the state's job to take care of the roads.

    If it's something we don't want, like the feds' interference with what we perceive to be none of their business, we invoke states rights.
    Mentioned in another thread, but Rebuild Alabama takes away the need for federal money in road costs.
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