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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    it shouldn't take a generational candidate to undo this garbage. i hope our country is better than that...
    One would think, but 2016 showed us otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    One would think, but 2016 showed us otherwise.
    it seemed like a lot of folks thought it would be no big deal to "shake things up" with trump since hillary=worst person in the universe. i hope at least some of realized their thoughts were really wrong.
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

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    Too bad he is too dumb to realize that improving the economy is the thing that will get him re-elected and then come up with a plan that could actually help the economy in a meaningful way. I expect him to change directions on key economic policy issues multiple times in the next year and just make a general mess of things.
    He started doing some backing and filling today. Watch for more. New poll shows Sanders, Biden and Warren tied...
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Saw that poll, Warren 20%, Sanders 20%, and Biden 19%. While I really like Biden, I am not sure he can win the Democrat nomination. The Progressives may get their candidate after all. Lots of time to see how this plays out.
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 92tide View Post
    it shouldn't take a generational candidate to undo this garbage. i hope our country is better than that...
    No, but it will take a generational candidate to make sure in 4-8 years we aren't dealing with a more competent fascist in the presidency
    I owe it to the people to have a signature...so here goes nothing!

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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    No, but it will take a generational candidate to make sure in 4-8 years we aren't dealing with a more competent fascist in the presidency
    I don't see that generational candidate anywhere...
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    I hope so because I think we're in a narrow window to save this country from ruin by century's end.
    I owe it to the people to have a signature...so here goes nothing!

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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    I hope so because I think we're in a narrow window to save this country from ruin by century's end.
    My dad used to say, "You can hope, wish in one hand and defecate in the other and see which gets fullest the fastest". Not exactly his words but you get the point.

    Voting for Biden would be getting us what got Trump in, in the first place in my opinion. I like Tulsi Gabbard personally but she ain't got a prayer to win the nomination of the Democrats as it stands right now. But if she did I would vote for her over Trump.

    I had just as soon to keep status quo over Biden or Warren. Four more years of chaos over the establishments yes men might just force change down the road. Nothing last forever and this country won't either sad to say. Enjoy it while you can!

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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOAN View Post
    My dad used to say, "You can hope, wish in one hand and defecate in the other and see which gets fullest the fastest". Not exactly his words but you get the point.

    Voting for Biden would be getting us what got Trump in, in the first place in my opinion. I like Tulsi Gabbard personally but she ain't got a prayer to win the nomination of the Democrats as it stands right now. But if she did I would vote for her over Trump.

    I had just as soon to keep status quo over Biden or Warren. Four more years of chaos over the establishments yes men might just force change down the road. Nothing last forever and this country won't either sad to say. Enjoy it while you can!
    I won't quibble with Biden being establishment. However, to think that Warren is a "yes man" seems to me like you aren't paying attention. I can't see how anyone who wants to "force change down the road" would pick Trump over Sanders or Warren. Unless it is the fact that change is only good when being forced upon the poor and middle class. Because frankly the only change that has happened the past 3 years is that economic disparity has accelerated at both ends of the scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanson78 View Post
    I won't quibble with Biden being establishment. However, to think that Warren is a "yes man" seems to me like you aren't paying attention. I can't see how anyone who wants to "force change down the road" would pick Trump over Sanders or Warren. Unless it is the fact that change is only good when being forced upon the poor and middle class. Because frankly the only change that has happened the past 3 years is that economic disparity has accelerated at both ends of the scale.
    and also white nationalism has again become "respectable"
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I don't see that generational candidate anywhere...
    One could argue that Trump is a generational candidate. A generation's answer to taking the United States back to their childhood in the 50's.

    Point is that he isn't some ordinary Bush, Clinton, and Carter who won because he was the better candidate. It was more of a movement than a campaign.
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    I hope so because I think we're in a narrow window to save this country from ruin by century's end.
    I think Ive heard similar things said in 2016, and read and studied about similar things said in 1917 and 1923.
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    Re: 2020 Rep POTUS candidate catch all discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOAN View Post

    I had just as soon to keep status quo over Biden or Warren. Four more years of chaos over the establishments yes men might just force change down the road. Nothing last forever and this country won't either sad to say. Enjoy it while you can!
    So you would risk another justice (because I doubt Ginsberg has 4 in her), and more institutions being destroyed and weakened just to say screw Biden and Warren? Sure nothing last forever, but good grief why would you put your kids and grandkids through hell just because you don't want to vote for an establishment candidate that is clearly better than the madman in office.
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