News Article: US Supreme Court unanimously limits civil asset forfeiture

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NPR: Supreme Court Limits Civil Asset Forfeiture, Rules Excessive Fines Apply To States

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday that the Constitution's ban on excessive fines applies to state and local governments, thus limiting their ability to use fines to raise revenue.

An Indiana trial court ruled that the fine was grossly disproportionate punishment on top of other fines and a year of house detention. The state Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution's ban on excessive fines does not apply to the states.

But Wednesday, the U.S. Supreme Court, open during a snowstorm, disagreed with the Indiana Supreme Court.

"Forfeiture of the Land Rover, the court determined, would be grossly disproportionate to the gravity of Timbs's offense," Ginsburg wrote.

She also noted that the ban on excessive fines was added to the Bill of Rights for the purpose of protecting individual liberty. "Protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history for good reason: Such fines undermine other liberties."

She noted that those fines could be used to retaliate against political enemies and have been used as a source of revenue.

The ruling effectively means states and local municipalities cannot use fines as a mechanism for raising revenue, something many local governments do.
Slate: The Supreme Court Just Struck a Huge, Unanimous Blow Against Policing for Profit
Wednesday’s ruling in Timbs v. Indiana, authored by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, is sharp and concise. It revolves around a single question of extraordinary importance. The Eighth Amendment guarantees that no “excessive fines” may be “imposed,” an ancient right enshrined in the Magna Carta and enthusiastically adopted by the Framers. But the Bill of Rights originally applied only to the federal government, not the states. After the Civil War, the 14th Amendment was ratified to apply these rights to the states, which had engaged in grotesque civil rights violations to perpetuate slavery. The Supreme Court, however, slowly applied (or “incorporated”) these rights against the states one by one, not all at once. And before Timbs, it had never incorporated the Excessive Fines Clause—allowing states to exploit their residents for huge sums of cash and property.
Long overdue.
 

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A unanimous decision!!. Hope springs eternal.

The court's opinion came in the case of Tyson Timbs, whose $42,000 Land Rover was seized by the state of Indiana after he was arrested for selling a small amount of heroin to undercover cops for $400.

Hey "He's got a nice ride. Let's go bust him"!!
 

GrayTide

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A unanimous decision!!. Hope springs eternal.

The court's opinion came in the case of Tyson Timbs, whose $42,000 Land Rover was seized by the state of Indiana after he was arrested for selling a small amount of heroin to undercover cops for $400.

Hey "He's got a nice ride. Let's go bust him"!!
Must have been a ten year old Land Rover.
 

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Well, just hallelujah! Some of the rural Louisiana parishes are going to go broke, or, at least, their LEOs' standards of living are going to take a plunge. An interesting corollary of this is raised with respect to small cities which fund their municipal government budgets with speed trap fines. I haven't read the decision yet, but I look forward to it...
 

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A unanimous decision!!. Hope springs eternal.

The court's opinion came in the case of Tyson Timbs, whose $42,000 Land Rover was seized by the state of Indiana after he was arrested for selling a small amount of heroin to undercover cops for $400.

Hey "He's got a nice ride. Let's go bust him"!!
May be unanimous on TideFans as well.:eek2:
 

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The concept of the police taking assets from duly convicted major criminals doesn't bother most people. But, as it tends to do, the government becomes addicted to power and the money that derives from that power. It becomes predatory in nature and exceeds its intended mandate. Reason number one million to keep government power limited.
 

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A unanimous decision!!. Hope springs eternal.

The court's opinion came in the case of Tyson Timbs, whose $42,000 Land Rover was seized by the state of Indiana after he was arrested for selling a small amount of heroin to undercover cops for $400.

Hey "He's got a nice ride. Let's go bust him"!!
The Keebler Elf used to brag about doing this, the little dung heap.


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uafanataum

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Unanimous as in both conservative and liberal judges supported this decision? How will they ever justify this to their base?
 

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I worked with a guy who owned a Pacer. If they ever posted a picture of a satisfied Pacer owner it would be him, he loved that car. Weird dude.
 

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