I agree. I've never bought the proposition of prostitution being the "victimless crime"...One is too many.
I agree. I've never bought the proposition of prostitution being the "victimless crime"...One is too many.
If I was as wealthy as Kraft, I doubt I'd be posting on Tidefans as often as I do.When you are as wealthy as Kraft, you're not paying for sex. You're paying them to just go away afterward.
When you are as wealthy as Kraft, you're not paying for sex. You're paying them to just go away afterward.
It is really disturbing to read the comments sections of articles written about this. Are people that bad at reading? There are people joking about this and "not seeing what he did wrong." The problem isn't that he went to the "massage parlor". What actually makes it a big deal is these women were sex slaves. Now there is a chance Kraft and the others had no idea, but if he did know then it becomes a huge deal. As I posted earlier the difference is one is a misdemeanor and the other is a felony.
Hey People, let's start collecting money for Selma!!:tongue:If I was as wealthy as Kraft, I doubt I'd be posting on Tidefans as often as I do.
Seated at a round table littered with party favors and the paper-cutout footballs that have become tradition at his annual Super Bowl Watch Party, President Donald Trump cheered the New England Patriots and his longtime friend, team owner Robert Kraft, to victory over the Los Angeles Rams on Feb. 3.
Sometime during the party at Trump’s West Palm Beach country club, the president turned in his chair to look over his right shoulder, smiling for a photo with two women at a table behind him.
The woman who snapped the blurry Super Bowl selfie with the president was Li Yang, 45, a self-made entrepreneur from China who started a chain of Asian day spas in South Florida. Over the years, these establishments — many of which operate under the name Tokyo Day Spas — have gained a reputation for offering sexual services.
Nineteen days after Trump and Yang posed together while rooting for the Patriots, authorities would charge Kraft with soliciting prostitution at a spa in Jupiter that Yang had founded more than a decade earlier.
Yang says she had long since sold Orchids of Asia Day Spa, the massage parlor where authorities say they caught Kraft on camera paying for oral sex the morning of the Jan. 20 AFC Championship game — his second visit in 24 hours. (Kraft has denied breaking the law.) Yang, who goes by Cindy, was not charged in the multi-agency anti-human trafficking operation last month that shut down 10 Asian day spas in Florida, none of which are registered to her or her family.
i knew there had to be more to this.Because of course he did...
Trump cheered Kraft’s team to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where he was busted
I understand that point of view and generally agree. In my opinion, there are always exceptions...I agree. I've never bought the proposition of prostitution being the "victimless crime"...
However, you realize what a small percentage of prostitution you're talking about? I would say that not even a fraction of a percent of that type of prostitution is punished in any way. When pimps are involved - and they're involved in the majority of it - is when it really gets ugly...I understand that point of view and generally agree. In my opinion, there are always exceptions...
When you have two consenting adults that have a mutually beneficial arrangement where money is exchanged for sex with no misgivings or regrets from either side...
Say you have a person who enjoys sex on a fairly casual basis (they have sex with people they don't love or hope to marry.) Someone they consider as a potential bed partner desires them and is well fixed financially, and is prepared to spend a few hundred dollars on an elaborate date hoping to land them in bed.
If they decide to skip the date, head straight to bed for half the price of the aborted date, that seems to me like it's nobody else's business, much less something to be jailed for.
Kraft's deal was nothing like this and was clearly a horrible crime, but decriminalizing prostitution is being discussed more and more these days.
I'm sure you are right.However, you realize what a small percentage of prostitution you're talking about? I would say that not even a fraction of a percent of that type of prostitution is punished in any way. When pimps are involved - and they're involved in the majority of it - is when it really gets ugly...
I know several men who would have made out A LOT cheaper and more stress free if they would have just found this type arrangement rather than marrying the hussy because she was hawt.I understand that point of view and generally agree. In my opinion, there are always exceptions...
When you have two consenting adults that have a mutually beneficial arrangement where money is exchanged for sex with no misgivings or regrets from either side...
Say you have a person who enjoys sex on a fairly casual basis (they have sex with people they don't love or hope to marry.) Someone they consider as a potential bed partner desires them and is well fixed financially, and is prepared to spend a few hundred dollars on an elaborate date hoping to land them in bed.
If they decide to skip the date, head straight to bed for half the price of the aborted date, that seems to me like it's nobody else's business, much less something to be jailed for.
Kraft's deal was nothing like this and was clearly a horrible crime, but decriminalizing prostitution is being discussed more and more these days.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-posed-picture-founder-spa-kraft-solicitated-prostitutesPer the Herald, the previously politically ambivalent Yang has become a mainstay at Republican events, sometimes pictured bearing a rhinestone MAGA purse, and donating significant sums to Trump’s campaign and PACs. She has taken pictures with Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL), among others.
Posted the original report on the previous page. One clarification to your post - Yang isn't the owner of Orchids of Asia. She sold it a few years ago.Buzzard, I can relate.
Sorry to have highjacked the thread.
I just read an update on the Kraft story, naturally Trump is buddies with the woman who runs the brothel/spa where Kraft went. I'll say this for Trump...for a old goat, he sure gets around.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-posed-picture-founder-spa-kraft-solicitated-prostitutes
I'm guessing she Yanged off enough men to get out of there.Posted the original report on the previous page. One clarification to your post - Yang isn't the owner of Orchids of Asia. She sold it a few years ago.
orchids of asia, bring your yin in for a yangI'm guessing she Yanged off enough men to get out of there.
Ba-dum-tss
I'm guessing she Yanged off enough men to get out of there.
Ba-dum-tss
Full banjeaux sir.OJ's glove not fitting was no accident. In the first place, it had been blood-soaked and allowed to dry - and shrink. In the second place, he had been advised to go off his NSAIDs and let his arthritic knuckles swell. The prosecution knew this and were too taken aback to object...