Question For My Blue Friends: Why All The Deference to Ocasio-Cortez?

92tide · Mar 20, 2019

Bamabuzzard said:
Waiting on the "both sides" line followed by the blue font comment making fun of the "both sides" comment. Then we move to the "to be fair" line followed by the blue font version of "to be fair".

Waiting on the "both sides" line followed by the blue font comment making fun of the "both sides" comment. Then we move to the "to be fair" line followed by the blue font version of "to be fair".

that was so last week

deliveryman35 · Mar 20, 2019

Someone needs to create a countdown clock with her face on it. Isn’t she claiming we only have 12 years left?

81usaf92 · Mar 20, 2019

Just for giggles... I typed in Ocasio-Cortez in the YouTube search bar and went through the 1st 50 videos:

17 were from Fox 34%
9 were from random places 18%
7 from MSNBC 14%
4 from NBC 8%
3 from CNN 6%
2 from CBS, Washington Post, and BBC 4% each
1 from VICE, PBS, Guardian, and Time 2% each

It seems like Way more attention is given by conservatives on AOC than here own political side.

TIDE-HSV · Mar 20, 2019

81usaf92 said:
Just for giggles... I typed in Ocasio-Cortez in the YouTube search bar and went through the 1st 50 videos:

17 were from Fox 34%
9 were from random places 18%
7 from MSNBC 14%
4 from NBC 8%
3 from CNN 6%
2 from CBS, Washington Post, and BBC 4% each
1 from VICE, PBS, Guardian, and Time 2% each

It seems like Way more attention is given by conservatives on AOC than here own political side.

My thought exactly when I first saw the title. It seems to me that she's basically a creature of Fox News. As far as looks, she just looks like a Hispanic ethnic mix to me. That's all...

Bodhisattva · Mar 20, 2019

CharminTide said:
Is this going to be a repeat of Bodhi’s “I wasn’t demeaning that simpleminded little bartender” stance?

LOL! I don't recall labeling her simpleminded or little like you just did. Are you familiar with this concept:

jthomas666 said:
Psychological Projection

IMO if someone is going to propose to reorder our economic system, that person should have a tremendous amount of wisdom on the subject. A PhD. Years of economic analysis at a university or a think tank. Many publications and awards. Similar to how you criticize global warming skeptics for not having depth of knowledge on the subject, I am critical of those with minimal education and no experience on the subject thinking they should be the leader on economic policy. It's really silly. AOC has some admirable qualities as a young politician, but her resume is extremely thin. In fact, she doesn't qualify to do my job in the government. I'm not being funny here. She doesn't have the required graduate education or relevant experience; she'd never even get an interview.

It's ok to criticize politicians. We have megathreads doing this very thing. I'm not sure why AOC is a sacred cow to some.

81usaf92 · Mar 20, 2019

TIDE-HSV said:
My thought exactly when I first saw the title. It seems to me that she's basically a creature of Fox News. As far as looks, she just looks like a Hispanic ethnic mix to me. That's all...

Honestly I don't understand why they are spending so much time going after AOC and Omar when Bernie and Warren are both actually running. You would think gearing up for a potential opponent in 2 years is more beneficial than gearing up for one in 10 years. But its like they are trying to find the new Hillary Clinton type enemy in which they had decades of hatred to dump on her when she actually was the Democratic nominee.

jthomas666 · Mar 20, 2019

92tide said:
that was so last week

Clearly, he's new here.

4Q Basket Case · Mar 20, 2019

92tide said:
those crazy wimmenz are all the same

jthomas666 said:
Psychological Projection

RollTide_HTTR said:
Nice attempt at a save but you just said they had "the same weird look" thats not a substantive point about anything.

CharminTide said:
Is this going to be a repeat of Bodhi’s “I wasn’t demeaning that simpleminded little bartender” stance?

Guess there's nothing left to talk about here.

i was discussing similarities I saw in two public figures. I said something you didn't agree with. Rather than refute the statement, you went straight to ad hominem disparagement -- disrespectful of women, and assuaging my own feelings of weakness by trashing someone else.

Obviously, both have to be true, because, well, what other explanation for such a cretinous statement could there possibly be?

No, it's not the way debate should take place. And yes, it is example 82,928,938 of why we can't have a civil discussion.

Here's my point about the eyes: it's the look of a zealot, and zealots of any stripe, regardless of color, personal plumbing, or political or religious belief, are dangerous. Zealots with power are incredibly dangerous. Ask the investors in Theranos, or the people who would have gotten six-figure jobs in the Amazon HQ how that works.

Rather than call the other guy bad names...racist, weak, misogynistic, whatever, let's keep it to the points. If you think I'm wrong, make a better argument.

TIDE-HSV · Mar 20, 2019

4Q Basket Case said:
Guess there's nothing left to talk about here.

i was discussing similarities I saw in two public figures. I said something you didn't agree with. Rather than refute the statement, you went straight to ad hominem disparagement -- disrespectful of women, and assuaging my own feelings of weakness by trashing someone else.

Obviously, both have to be true, because, well, what other explanation for such a cretinous statement could there possibly be?

No, it's not the way debate should take place. And yes, it is example 82,928,938 of why we can't have a civil discussion.

Here's my point about the eyes: it's the look of a zealot, and zealots of any stripe, regardless of color, personal plumbing, or political or religious belief, are dangerous. Zealots with power are incredibly dangerous. Ask the investors in Theranos, or the people who would have gotten six-figure jobs in the Amazon HQ how that works.

Rather than call the other guy bad names...racist, weak, misogynistic, whatever, let's keep it to the points. If you think I'm wrong, make a better argument.

I went back and looked. I just don't see these "zealot's eyes"...

twofbyc · Mar 20, 2019

I just went back and looked, and I see the same beady, unable-to-look-anyone-in-the-eye, egomaniacal look in both Trump and Hitler’s eyes.
Imagine that.

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92tide · Mar 21, 2019

4Q Basket Case said:
Guess there's nothing left to talk about here.

i was discussing similarities I saw in two public figures. I said something you didn't agree with. Rather than refute the statement, you went straight to ad hominem disparagement -- disrespectful of women, and assuaging my own feelings of weakness by trashing someone else.

Obviously, both have to be true, because, well, what other explanation for such a cretinous statement could there possibly be?

No, it's not the way debate should take place. And yes, it is example 82,928,938 of why we can't have a civil discussion.

Here's my point about the eyes: it's the look of a zealot, and zealots of any stripe, regardless of color, personal plumbing, or political or religious belief, are dangerous. Zealots with power are incredibly dangerous. Ask the investors in Theranos, or the people who would have gotten six-figure jobs in the Amazon HQ how that works.

Rather than call the other guy bad names...racist, weak, misogynistic, whatever, let's keep it to the points. If you think I'm wrong, make a better argument.

what was there to refute?

the debate you are wanting to have is "i think aoc's eyes look just like this other person who is a zealot, discuss". you don't really have a lot of room to criticize folks for not falling for that and joining you in "debate"

MattinBama · Mar 21, 2019

deliveryman35 said:
Someone needs to create a countdown clock with her face on it. Isn’t she claiming we only have 12 years left?

A United Nations’ panel on climate change put out the 12 years to act number last year.

92tide · Mar 21, 2019

twofbyc said:
I just went back and looked, and I see the same beady, unable-to-look-anyone-in-the-eye, egomaniacal look in both Trump and Hitler’s eyes.
Imagine that.

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CharminTide · Mar 21, 2019

Bodhisattva said:
LOL! I don't recall labeling her simpleminded or little like you just did. Are you familiar with this concept: It's ok to criticize politicians. We have megathreads doing this very thing. I'm not sure why AOC is a sacred cow to some.

Still digging that hole and backpedaling those goalposts, I see.

92tide said:
what was there to refute?

the debate you are wanting to have is "i think aoc's eyes look just like this other person who is a zealot, discuss". you don't really have a lot of room to criticize folks for not falling for that and joining you in "debate"

Right? Not sure how "she's a stupid girl" or "she has crazy eyes" is the basis for productive policy criticism. Just own the fact that you were slinging out an insult and no one will care. Hell, when I say Trump is an idiot, I mean that as an insult his intelligence and I don't couch that view behind some thin veil of policy critique. To pretend otherwise is just weakness.

GrayTide · Mar 21, 2019

TIDE-HSV said:
My thought exactly when I first saw the title. It seems to me that she's basically a creature of Fox News. As far as looks, she just looks like a Hispanic ethnic mix to me. That's all...

I agree with this. Trump, Limbaugh, Hannity and other Fox News sycophants have to drum up a boogeyman for the base to fear. What better candidate for their divisivness than a brown skin, socialist from NYC.

92tide · Mar 21, 2019

GrayTide said:
I agree with this. Trump, Limbaugh, Hannity and other Fox News sycophants have to drum up a boogeyman for the base to fear. What better candidate for their divisivness than a brown skin, socialist from NYC.

and the base eats it up every single time.

twofbyc · Mar 21, 2019

92tide said:

Did you find that in the dictionary next to the word “deranged”?
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Bodhisattva · Mar 21, 2019

CharminTide said:
Still digging that hole and backpedaling those goalposts, I see.

Still projecting, I see. Good luck with your strawman project.

92tide · Mar 21, 2019

twofbyc said:
Did you find that in the dictionary next to the word “deranged”?
[emoji41]

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nah, i was looking up something about lsu and her picture popped up.

Bodhisattva · Mar 21, 2019

92tide said:

So, you're saying both sides?

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