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  • Tim Tebow, Florida

    2 2.99%
  • Cam Newton, Auburn

    2 2.99%
  • Stephen Garcia, South Carolina

    7 10.45%
  • Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M

    12 17.91%
  • Trevor Knight, Oklahoma

    2 2.99%
  • Bo Wallace, Ole Miss

    1 1.49%
  • Chad Kelly, Ole Miss

    0 0%
  • Cardale Jones, Ohio State

    0 0%
  • Deshaun Watson, Clemson

    35 52.24%
  • Trevor Lawrence, Clemson

    6 8.96%
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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    I had a hard time not picking Watson. But Manziel did, crazy as he may be, I did not think possible.
    My take too!

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonaudio View Post
    Without some circus-like catches, Manziel would have lost both games against Bama and wouldn't even be on the list. Same with the OM QBs. The WRs and a ton dumb luck are the only reason they're on the list.

    Tebow, Watson, Scam - those guys just beat Bama.
    That's not the way I remember that game in T-town. He just kept making throws all the time. He had an answer everytime. We should have won the game, but he's the reason we didn't.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Doug Flutie pre Saban. Trevor Lawrence currently.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    I'll give Favre an honorable mention for pre Saban.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post



    That's not the way I remember that game in T-town. He just kept making throws all the time. He had an answer everytime. We should have won the game, but he's the reason we didn't.
    Manziel got spotted 20 points on the 1st 3 drives on some miracle situations (ie bobbling the ball back to himself, receivers running under ducks, AJ having the worst quarter in his career), and didn't do much else afterwards. Manziel probably had his best performance the following year, but he played a big part of us winning that one also.


    But to be perfectly honest, Texas A&M's best player that day was Doug Nussmeier. Without one of his most "beautiful" displays of offensive incompetence we probably win 42-29 instead of lose 29-24. Its amazing that we won a NC with Nuss calling plays because we should've lost both of the LSU and UGA games with his bone headed play calling.
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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Before CNS, for me, it was Kim Hammond at Florida State in 1967. We could not stop him and they could not stop the Snakeman. 37-37 tie.
    Since CNS, I must agree on Watson.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Manziel got spotted 20 points on the 1st 3 drives on some miracle situations (ie bobbling the ball back to himself, receivers running under ducks, AJ having the worst quarter in his career), and didn't do much else afterwards. Manziel probably had his best performance the following year, but he played a big part of us winning that one also.


    But to be perfectly honest, Texas A&M's best player that day was Doug Nussmeier. Without one of his most "beautiful" displays of offensive incompetence we probably win 42-29 instead of lose 29-24. Its amazing that we won a NC with Nuss calling plays because we should've lost both of the LSU and UGA games with his bone headed play calling.
    Receivers running under ducks?

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by colbysullivan View Post
    Receivers running under ducks?
    There were so many times where his receivers bailed him out for misplaced balls, and balls thrown up in the air. Had he not had not had Swope or Evans constantly having to readjust or having to make crazy gallops to overthrown balls then we probably don't get in a 20 point hole to begin with.
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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    During the Saban Era, it's DeShaun Watson.......by a mile. Even if you deduct his final drive in the first game, where he was way down and we forced him to chew up clock, he still had a helluva game. Clemson did NOT lose the first game because of anything Watson did or didn't do, they lost because we outfoxed them with the onsides kick, Coker had a helluva game, and Drake hit them with the virtual death blow.

    The second one........that was perhaps the greatest defense ever until that night. And while the lack of offense helped, Watson still had to get it done.



    Not to diss anyone, but the other quarterbacks......

    Tebow - his team as a whole was superior, it wasn't just him. Simply look at the very next year.

    Garcia - swallowed a magic pill before the game and turned into Aaron Rodgers for four quarters (he lost to 6-7 UK the very next week)

    Newton - only was able to do it because we left 17 points or so on the field in the first half; if not for Ingram's bizarre fumble or Trent's drop, we win that game regardless of what Cam does

    Knight - fluke game against a team that really didn't care that much

    Wallace - fluke game decided by turnovers and almost nothing to do with what Bo did

    Kelly - spot the boy five turnovers and he still needs two insane TDs (one illegal) to win by only six

    Cardale - the story of that game was Zeke Elliott running all over us

    Lawrence - the way we played, Kelly Bryant could have beaten us that night

    The one I will address in a little detail is Manziel. The dude was dazzling, but I think he gets way too much credit for a win where he got spotted 20 points and only scored 9 the rest of the game. Let me put it this way: Clara Peller could have been the offensive coordinator that day in the final minutes, and the results could not have been any worse.


    The second year? Let's see.....he was trailing 35-14, gave up a pick six, and his team was only in the game thanks to an inopportune fumble by TJ Yeldon on the death blow TD. Sure, he threw the ball, but most of those yards were receivers catching 15 or 20-yard flares and then running for forty yards. That prayer he tossed up.....just plain stupid and reckless.


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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Lawrence - the way we played, Kelly Bryant could have beaten us that night

    Lawrence was the reason your defense looked so bad. He beat bama with his head. He knew where he wanted to go with the ball fast and a lot of times before the snap. The line played well but the reason the pressure couldn't get to him is because he got rid of the ball quickly. The receivers made great catches but he got the ball to them when they had the advantage in coverage. Clemson would not have won with Kelly b.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    I like to post and then go back and read the other posts so here's my thought:

    Johhny Manziel in T-town on a perfect Nov. day did the craziest thing I've ever seen for the whole game. Maybe it's because I was there in person and saw it with my own eyes but it was amazingly crazy good!

    It was not just one play (the one that won him the Heisman) but he did stuff like that the whole game and we couldn't stop him. It's even amazing we almost pulled it out in the end.

    Everybody on the list had a day, but Johhny football had the best of 'em all on one day against Bama.
    I get what you're saying, but after that first quarter, Manziel was kept largely in check.

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    I don't know about yardages or completion percentage, or TD's in the two I'm going to mention, but they stand out in my memory above others. Both Pre-Saban, the 1969 Manning game when Scott Hunter out-dueled him for the 33-32 win, and Reggie Collier's performance in 1981 to secure a 13-13 tie against the Tide. Collier's 4th quarter drive was masterful, and for the first time in my life as a Bama fan, I actually breathed a sigh of relief when the game ended in a tie, because it looked for all the world like Collier was going to lead the Golden Eagles to a winning touchdown instead of a FG.

    As for Saban-era, Stephen Garcia's performance in 2010 is the one that still defies logic to me to this day. But I have to tip my cap to him for being able to pull it off.
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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    I had a hard time not picking Watson. But Manziel did, crazy as he may be, I did not think possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    Manziel got spotted 20 points on the 1st 3 drives on some miracle situations (ie bobbling the ball back to himself, receivers running under ducks, AJ having the worst quarter in his career), and didn't do much else afterwards. Manziel probably had his best performance the following year, but he played a big part of us winning that one also.


    But to be perfectly honest, Texas A&M's best player that day was Doug Nussmeier. Without one of his most "beautiful" displays of offensive incompetence we probably win 42-29 instead of lose 29-24. Its amazing that we won a NC with Nuss calling plays because we should've lost both of the LSU and UGA games with his bone headed play calling.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonProf View Post
    I get what you're saying, but after that first quarter, Manziel was kept largely in check.
    Some of his very best throws were in the 4th quarter. Our defense wasn't that bad...he was just that good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxRc-kSH74

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    Re: Best performance by an opposing quarterback against Alabama? Pre & since CNS

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    Some of his very best throws were in the 4th quarter. Our defense wasn't that bad...he was just that good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxRc-kSH74
    I keep asking myself what happens if Nussmeir had the smarts enough to run the ball 4 times on the 3 yard line instead of trying to win AJ the heisman. MVP of that game for Texas A&M was Doug Nussmsier not Johnny manziel. We shut him down from the 2nd quarter on.
    Last edited by 81usaf92; March 11th, 2019 at 12:41 PM.

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