Wouldn't argue that at all.
If there is one thing we learned from all that, do not, at all, cooperate with the NCAA. Mizzou learned that the hard way. They'll nail you to the wall either way. Circle the wagons and make them dig up the dirt.
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If there is one thing we learned from all that, do not, at all, cooperate with the NCAA. Mizzou learned that the hard way. They'll nail you to the wall either way. Circle the wagons and make them dig up the dirt.
Incredible.
I go over there and the FIRST THING I see from the LSU board is a thread attacking an inspirational speech maker who has BEEN DEAD FOR TWENTY-SIX YEARS......Jim Valvano.
You see, Valvano's PLAYERS selling NCAA tourney tix for profit on their own is somehow HIS fault.......but.......they're too stupid to see the coach HIMSELF on tape making an offer is light years away from Valvano's situation.
Un-freaking-believable.....
Not to disagree because that's true now BUT....
Alabama tried that in 1995 and we got blasted as being arrogant.
We DID get the last year removed, and the NZAA forked over a seven-figure settlement to a guy they slandered.
We co-operated in 2002 and got nailed. Ironically, us and Miss St (2004) did kind of show everyone the way with dealing with the NCAA.
I''m old enough to recall the NZAA pretty much believing and sanctioning everyone for every single allegation, true or not. I'm with B1G - we don't need the NZAA.
There's a subtle balancing act to making it look like you care. Hell, the NCAA even praised out compliance efforts on the way out the door.
It's hilarious. They circle the wagons then the fan base sets said wagons on fire.
LOL we just knocked off UT, all but guaranteeing LSU the SEC title. Enjoy your soon to be yanked ill-gotten gains, LSU.
Maybe so, but the NCAA owns rights to the NCAA men's basketball tourney. So, they would have a vested interest in not hurting the TV ratings by excluding the basketball blue bloods. Which is, in my opinion, an obvious conflict of interests. But who is going to regulate the NCAA???? No one obviously.
I don't think that it had anything to do with that. You were lucky. They investigated Auburn during a period in which they had no stomach for sanctions. Had that investigation taken place 10 years earlier, you would have been slammed. They do not need evidence - they just need to believe that it happened, and every credible person walking the planet believes that it happened.
This was always my problem with them. It wasn't that we didn't need oversight, it was how someone who wanted to get even with a school because his career didn't pan out could go make up stuff. That's exactly what Gene Jelks did to us. Yes, he was paid by some Auburn fans who - in the delusional world that many fans inhabit - convinced themselves of a conspiracy where Alabama hired Eric Ramsey to make up allegations because we couldn't beat Pat Dye. (Not one can explain to me how we managed to get the Auburn coaches to make money offers on tape to Ramsey). So they got Jelks, who needed money. He made up a bunch of lies about us and got the NCAA snooping - and while they were is when the L'affaire Langham happened, and we got slugged.
Auburn got bombed by the NCAA in 1993.....probably harder than they should have to be honest with you.
Did they deserve sanctions? Yes
TV ban? No
I think Auburn benefited from something else - the NCAA spent four years investigating USC over the Reggie Bush deal. When that began in 2006, the NCAA had been through the ringer with us and Miss State. By the time it finished in 2010, they had no stomach for another protracted battle.
When a lot of our fans were posting here about the Cam scandal, they were using their life experiences with the NCAA. By that time, the NCAA was a - pardon the pun - paper tiger.
And as I'm sure you recall......Auburn's scandal was covered up in the news by the then emerging Ohio State Tattoo Scandal.
UNC was different, they were not paying players and Roy Williams himself had no idea about the class in question. The class was taken advantage of by students and athletes alike. Big difference between a class and a bagman like with $cammy or ole $i$$ snatch and grabbing recruits who didn't even visit.
Bring it all above board:
Let the players sell their name/likeness with the exception the school can use any way it wants when they sign.vLet them do advertisements. Pay a stipend. Let the open market determine their value. But make them report every penny.
Until then, play by the rules or pay the price for breaking the rules.
Let the players sell their name/likeness with the exception the school can use any way it wants when they sign.vLet them do advertisements. Pay a stipend. Let the open market determine their value. But make them report every penny.
Until then, play by the rules or pay the price for breaking the rules.
Believe it or not, I had an encounter with one Gene Jelks in a Kroger of all places..................he was a department manager, and saw my Bama shirt and stopped and talked.........but he didn't seem too keen on talking about any of that
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UNC committed broad scale academic fraud within African American Studies. It wasn’t just “a single class”. It was multiple classes with little or no academic oversight. Multiple “independent study” courses were the department administrative assistant was assigning grades. African American Studies was basically a shadow curriculum.
UNC skated because, while a large percentage of those within AFAM studies were student athletes, there were non student athletes with availability to and enrolled in those courses. Therefore, it wasn’t an “extra benefit” because it was available to the study body in general. Never mind that student athletes were steered to that curriculum for 20 years.
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Someone remind me - the legal issues here were fraud and wiretapping, correct? Were there charges of money laundering, as well?
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