News Article: Mueller Delivers Report on Russia Investigation to Attorney General

Bazza · Mar 27, 2019

92tide said:

Alas.....

UAH · Mar 27, 2019

rgw said:
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1110933235360509952

Glenn Greenwald taking the gloves off on Donald Trump and corporate media's infatuation with everything Russia! Aired this week on Democracy Now.

Maudiemae · Mar 27, 2019

Bazza said:
I also feel that politicians and the media do a terrible job of explaining socialism to the country.

Some of the comments/posts I see here do a better job.

Sales and public relations seem to take a back seat to appeasing the masses.

The blind leading the blind.

There are exceptions, thank goodness, but you have to look hard to find them.

Too money to be made in the Kool aid/narrative/sheep herding business.

Generally speaking, I agree with you. The thing is, though, there will never be a perfect system or perfect government. Greed and corruption will always exist and there are people who will game the system no matter what system it may be. It's my opinion, and I think you will probably not agree, that we have some super gamers playing the system as hard as they can in our present administration. I honestly never realized how vulnerable we were as regards the Presidency.

92tide · Mar 27, 2019

Maudiemae said:
Generally speaking, I agree with you. The thing is, though, there will never be a perfect system or perfect government. Greed and corruption will always exist and there are people who will game the system no matter what system it may be. It's my opinion, and I think you will probably not agree, that we have some super gamers playing the system as hard as they can in our present administration. I honestly never realized how vulnerable we were as regards the Presidency.

nearly every conservative charlatan and huckster has linked themselves to trump. they can run wild and they know that all they have to do is to overly simplify it into a big picture view of what they are doing and explain it to him in a flattering way and he will think they are all that. and they are laughing all the way to the bank

Bazza · Mar 27, 2019

Maudiemae said:
-snip-It's my opinion, and I think you will probably not agree, that we have some super gamers playing the system as hard as they can in our present administration. I honestly never realized how vulnerable we were as regards the Presidency.

Oh I agree 100%.

Except for your last comment - I've always felt our political system was ripe for the taking.

92tide · Mar 27, 2019

Bazza said:
Oh I agree 100%.

Except for your last comment - I've always felt our political system was ripe for the taking.

you've always felt that way and then did your part helping it along.

rgw · Mar 27, 2019

Trump's spoils game is one of the all-timers of self-service by his appointments but I dare say that the Clinton administration would only be better in their ability to keep it buttoned up and not so blatant.

Bazza · Mar 27, 2019

92tide said:
you've always felt that way and then did your part helping it along.

I know you are venting and like I said....no problem.

Have you ever given any thought as to how you could persuade me to vote in a different direction this time around?

If not - that's cool.

Not everyone is a sheep.

rgw · Mar 27, 2019

I'm not trying to attack anyone on here but I find it hard to believe that anyone could truly buy that a guy who has made a career out of hustling people with his lawyers was going to "drain the swamp."

Anyone dispassionately looking at the situation could tell you that he and his brood of small men with big pocketbooks were gonna roll around in the swamp like pigs wallow in the mud.

Jon · Mar 27, 2019

I'd just like to pause here and say imagine the Ken Starr report was delivered only to Janet Reno and then she shared it with the Whitehouse to redact whatever they wanted prior to release

MattinBama · Mar 27, 2019

Jon said:
I'd just like to pause here and say imagine the Ken Starr report was delivered only to Janet Reno and then she shared it with the Whitehouse to redact whatever they wanted prior to release

While the Senate majority leader of the same party repeatedly blocked resolutions about making it public.

92tide · Mar 27, 2019

Bazza said:
I know you are venting and like I said....no problem.

Have you ever given any thought as to how you could persuade me to vote in a different direction this time around?

If not - that's cool.

Not everyone is a sheep.

i'm not venting. but hey, that's cool. it's not my job to persuade you of anything. besides, i don't think i could get big picture enough.

92tide · Mar 27, 2019

Jon said:
I'd just like to pause here and say imagine the Ken Starr report was delivered only to Janet Reno and then she shared it with the Whitehouse to redact whatever they wanted prior to release

but whatabout obama redacting his real birth certificate

deliveryman35 · Mar 27, 2019

Jon said:
I'd just like to pause here and say imagine the Ken Starr report was delivered only to Janet Reno and then she shared it with the Whitehouse to redact whatever they wanted prior to release

Ken Starr operated under the Independent Counsel statute, which does not exist anymore. Mueller operated as a SPECIAL counsel, which by statute includes an obligation that he provide a report directly to the AG.
Ironically, the independent counsel statute was passed when democrats had full control of congress and Jimmy Carter was president.

twofbyc · Mar 27, 2019

92tide said:
it's only socialist when the people benefit from it.

FIFY

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twofbyc · Mar 27, 2019

crimsonaudio said:
Most people that are "against socialism" are against socialist programs that don't benefit all, but only some.

We all benefit from the roads, from fire fighters, from police, etc. Not all benefit from all social programs. That's generally the sticking point.

Yeah...no one benefits from Medicare-for-all.
I forgot.

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92tide · Mar 27, 2019

deliveryman35 said:
Ken Starr operated under the Independent Counsel statute, which does not exist anymore. Mueller operated as a SPECIAL counsel, which by statute includes an obligation that he provide a report directly to the AG.
Ironically, the independent counsel statute was passed when democrats had full control of congress and Jimmy Carter was president.

i just want to see the mueller report for sale at barnes and noble

twofbyc · Mar 27, 2019

Jon said:
I'd just like to pause here and say imagine the Ken Starr report was delivered only to Janet Reno and then she shared it with the Whitehouse to redact whatever they wanted prior to release

Or imagine Clinton never going under oath.

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Aledinho · Mar 27, 2019

The Hill

the man who would not only represent Hitler but would get him acquitted :smile: said:
[FONT=&quot]During the first several months of the investigation, CNN viewers also heard my more nuanced, more centrist views. As a liberal Democrat who strongly supported Hillary Clinton, I had some credibility when I raised questions about the certainty with which other CNN guests had declared Trump guilty. I introduced constitutional analysis regarding the allegatio[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ns of obstruction of justice, arguing that — regardless of Trump’s intentions — he could not be charged with obstruction based exclusively on exercising his constitutional authority under Article II. This includes the power to fire any member of the executive branch[/FONT]

twofbyc · Mar 27, 2019

Wait, Barr said (and Trump echoed) that it’s over.
This must be fake news.

https://apple.news/AkCPNe-XLTsyN_KLtTGM2Yw

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