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    Re: AAF may fold

    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    Anybody know how much the players were making? I’m guessing it was not much.
    3 year 250k contracts
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    Quote Originally Posted by deliveryman35 View Post
    Anybody know how much the players were making? I’m guessing it was not much.
    Year 1 - $70,000
    Year 2 - $80,000
    Year 3- $100,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    Year 1 - $70,000
    Year 2 - $80,000
    Year 3- $100,000
    I know I'd rather be getting that money doing computers than getting tackled by big dudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    I know I'd rather be getting that money doing computers than getting tackled by big dudes.
    Yeah, I am fine doing architecture. 200-300lb guys don't try and tackle me while I do it.
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    Re: AAF may fold

    Quote Originally Posted by 81usaf92 View Post
    https://www.sbnation.com/2019/4/3/18...ol-bill-polian
    Basically... Little Ebersol is an idiot for trusting money not in the bank from would be investors, and Dundon is a snake in the grass.
    That article did a good job of summing up what probably took place. Sounds like Dundon was a con man, who fleeced them, in the hopes he would walk away with a valuable asset. (Looks like he won't.)


    It’s here where billionaire Tom Dundon enters the picture. Dundon, owner of the Carolina Hurricanes, made his fortune off subprime car loans, before parlaying that into a 55 percent purchase of “TopGolf,” which marries sport and technology. Dundon came through as the AAF’s bailout, committing a reported $250 million to ensure operations could continue, but in reality only gave $70 million to the AAF and was operating on a weekly basis. The result of this investment was that Dundon became chairman of the board — and had full control of its future.

    Seeing how he made his fortune explains pretty much all that you need to know about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda.1973 View Post
    That article did a good job of summing up what probably took place. Sounds like Dundon was a con man, who fleeced them, in the hopes he would walk away with a valuable asset. (Looks like he won't.)





    Seeing how he made his fortune explains pretty much all that you need to know about him.
    Yeah its what I make of it. I think Charlie has heard all of these stories about "How Vince destroyed a good idea" from his dad that he believed starting up a league off logical ideas was easy. He thought he had a good investor, but didn't hold him to a 128 million pledge. I think at that point is where things went south. I thought from the start that Dundon wasn't after making this a better league as much as controlling key patented items. You don't just get a NHL owner interested in a spring football league to the degree of 250 million dollars and majority control out of the blue. I think Ebersol should've went around to folks like Jerry Jones and other well off NFL owners to buy into this if he wanted it to succeed. Because I'm sure there was some interest over some of the technological aspects that would have them interested enough to burn money for a few years to gauge the NFL interest in the league. But Ebersol probably made two of the worst decision of all time for spring football ever made 1) starting a league without hard money and 2) selling total control to a person that is a known con man without hard money.

    It would've been better for Ebersol to have made peace with Vince from the get go. From what I read, one of the issues was having a SLC and Phoenix team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jashleyren2 View Post
    It got a lot of interest here in Birmingham, but I doubt Atlanta or Orlando even knew it was going on. Trouble is, football is king here in Alabama, but those other places have lots of other things to capture their attention, like MLS, NBA, and MLB in the case of Atlanta.

    Interest was strong in Birmingham. We had attendance. I don't know about other cities, but it could have done well here.
    Yep. They have a lot in Atlanta that they aren't particularly good at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    Yeah, I am not sure if anyone cares how this effects those involved who are already wealthy. But a lot of coaches and players just lost their only income because they trusted the people who put this together. I am sure that some left other jobs for this opportunity.
    Oh, I get it, I'm just not feeling sorry for a coach who walked out on his own CFB team then whines about getting treated the same way. Screw Spurrier.
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    There is a special place in Hell for Dundon.
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    I’d have a pretty quick response to that request, filled with four letter words and a hand wave with only one finger.


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    Re: AAF may fold

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    I know I'd rather be getting that money doing computers than getting tackled by big dudes.
    But the catch is you're able to do something else for that type money. My guess is a lot of these guys don't have skills or trade outside of football that is worth that type money.
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    Re: AAF may fold

    Quote Originally Posted by jashleyren2 View Post
    It got a lot of interest here in Birmingham, but I doubt Atlanta or Orlando even knew it was going on. Trouble is, football is king here in Alabama, but those other places have lots of other things to capture their attention, like MLS, NBA, and MLB in the case of Atlanta.

    Interest was strong in Birmingham. We had attendance. I don't know about other cities, but it could have done well here.
    I heard the figure 30,000 in attendance for a San Antonio game, back before the talk about the league folding got going. So Riley's team had people coming out. Heck, when I went to Alabama, I think Denny Stadium only held 40,000!

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