News Article: SIAP: Clemson WR Justyn Ross Thinks Some NCAA Players Will Leave to Play in XFL

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 5, 2019

Clemson WR Justyn Ross Thinks Some NCAA Players Will Leave to Play in XFL

"If [the XFL] is offering that kind of money, that's hard for an 18- or 19-year-old to turn down," Ross said. "If you really need that money, oh yeah, go do that. Something could happen. You can get hurt. Anything can happen. You have to take care of yourself because it can be over just like that."

Just found this interesting. Not sure I buy it. But if it makes sense for any player it be someone like Ross. He seems like an obvious 1st rounder whenever he's allowed to come out so might as well make some money.

But again, I'll believe it when I see it.

Con · Apr 5, 2019

After what happened to the other league I would stay in school and work on getting a degree. I would be afraid I wouldn't get paid.

NationalTitles18 · Apr 5, 2019

Will the XFL pay for insurance against injury?

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 5, 2019

NationalTitles17 said:
Will the XFL pay for insurance against injury?

Good question. I have no idea.

RollTide_HTTR · Apr 5, 2019

Con said:
After what happened to the other league I would stay in school and work on getting a degree. I would be afraid I wouldn't get paid.

I would too. I think it would take the perfect scenario for a player to seriously consider this.

Think they would have to be 1. An absolute star. 2. Need the money for family 3. Not have parents/family pressuring them to graduate 4. not care about college glory at all

81usaf92 · Apr 5, 2019

RollTide_HTTR said:
I would too. I think it would take the perfect scenario for a player to seriously consider this.

Think they would have to be 1. An absolute star. 2. Need the money for family 3. Not have parents/family pressuring them to graduate 4. not care about college glory at all

The big difference is that there is no concern of whether or not players are getting paid in the XFL. Vince has already put the money in to pay players for 3 years. So it’s not the same situation that the AAF was dealing with.

Point is that the XFL will most likely survive for 2-3 years at a minimum

B1GTide · Apr 5, 2019

81usaf92 said:
The big difference is that there is no concern of whether or not players are getting paid in the XFL. Vince has already put the money in to pay players for 3 years. So it’s not the same situation that the AAF was dealing with.

Point is that the XFL will most likely survive for 2-3 years at a minimum

Unless the money is in escrow, I wouldn't trust it.

81usaf92 · Apr 5, 2019

B1GTide said:
Unless the money is in escrow, I wouldn't trust it.

Vince isn’t a soulless snake like Dundon. So if they sign on then they are guaranteed the money for at least that season. Very few complaints about pay and benefits owed came up after the collapse of the 1st XFL.

It really depends on who you are if this is worth it for an under 22 year old. Are you someone that is well off academic and play exposure wise or not?

teamplayer · Apr 5, 2019

For a long time I have wanted the NBA and NFL to have minor leagues and let guys who have no desire to continue their education or who have no business being admitted to a university have a chance to play and develop their games.

Bama9001 · Apr 5, 2019

B1GTide said:
Unless the money is in escrow, I wouldn't trust it.

Excellent point. I would want my money guaranteed and protected.

I'd be for this and maybe it will catch on. Way, way too many players on college campuses that really don't want to be there and don't belong there.

CrimsonNagus · Apr 6, 2019

I think some are being a little naive if you believe most of these kids are in love with college ball. It’s just what they have to do to get to the NFL.

If the XFL swoops in and starts courting NCAA players after 1 year, before they are eligible for the NFL, then I’d expect a number of guys to go ahead and take the money.

Shoot, if I was the XFL, I’d consider going after high school seniors. Why do they even need to go to college? Play a few years on the XFL, get paid, then maybe the NFL comes calling. The XFL could become more of a developmental league just by grabbing the beat talent before they are eligible for the NFL.

Let’s face it, most college degrees are not that valuable anymore, they are the new high school diploma. So, if you can get money straight out of HS, than why not. People acting like they have to go to college now, and earn a degree, are part of the continuing problem behind the higher education mindset in this country. It’s not necessary, school will still be there if a career in the XFL/NFL falls through. Plenty of options for adults like community college, technical schools and night classes at most universities. So, I say, take the money and run, worry about school later.

81usaf92 · Apr 6, 2019

CrimsonNagus said:
I think some are being a little naive if you believe most of these kids are in love with college ball. It’s just what they have to do to get to the NFL.

If the XFL swoops in and starts courting NCAA players after 1 year, before they are eligible for the NFL, then I’d expect a number of guys to go ahead and take the money.

Shoot, if I was the XFL, I’d consider going after high school seniors. Why do they even need to go to college? Play a few years on the XFL, get paid, then maybe the NFL comes calling. The XFL could become more of a developmental league just by grabbing the beat talent before they are eligible for the NFL.

Let’s face it, most college degrees are not that valuable anymore, they are the new high school diploma. So, if you can get money straight out of HS, than why not. People acting like they have to go to college now, and earn a degree, are part of the continuing problem behind the higher education mindset in this country. It’s not necessary, school will still be there if a career in the XFL/NFL falls through. Plenty of options for adults like community college, technical schools and night classes at most universities. So, I say, take the money and run, worry about school later.

It’s also worth noting that one of the biggest debates surrounding college ball is the fact that most college players are broke until they get to the NFL and there is also a big debate on per diem. If Vince gets this approved then it could become a serious headache for the NCAA.

Just think a guy like Justin Tuck was only discovered by the accident of Notre Dame coaches stopping at a gas station on 280 and asking “Where is Central High school?” and not clarifying that they meant “ Phoenix City” and not “Coosa”. Had that accident not happened then Tuck would’ve probably went to a CC instead of a major football university. There are plenty of players like that. So there will be a lot of quality players that aren’t at the top willing to take some cold hard cash over going to a college like Northern Iowa, Hofstra, or UNA.

81usaf92 · Apr 6, 2019

NationalTitles17 said:
Will the XFL pay for insurance against injury?

To answer this question.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...292412/xfl-aaf-mistakes-lessons-vince-mcmahon

CullmanTide · Apr 6, 2019

81usaf92 said:
The big difference is that there is no concern of whether or not players are getting paid in the XFL. Vince has already put the money in to pay players for 3 years. So it’s not the same situation that the AAF was dealing with.

Point is that the XFL will most likely survive for 2-3 years at a minimum

From what I understand, the XFL already has insurance secured as well.

CrimsonNagus · Apr 6, 2019

81usaf92 said:
If Vince gets this approved then it could become a serious headache for the NCAA.

What approval does Vince need to get?

There are no laws preventing him from going after high school players or NCAA players. The NCAA can’t really stop him or the players, they can drop out of school whenever they want too.

The NFL and NCAA basically had a gentleman’s agreement to create the Junior rule. If the NFL really wanted too, they could drop that rule and go after high schoolers as well and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it.

81usaf92 · Apr 6, 2019

CrimsonNagus said:
What approval does Vince need to get?

There are no laws preventing him from going after high school players or NCAA players. The NCAA can’t really stop him or the players, they can drop out of school whenever they want too.

The NFL and NCAA basically had a gentleman’s agreement to create the Junior rule. If the NFL really wanted too, they could drop that rule and go after high schoolers as well and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it.

From what I gather the rule is that you have to 1) possess a high school diploma and 2) be out for 3 years. But Vince wants to be in the good graces of the NFLPA before he implements this idea.

But if he does it then you can expect College football to change dramatically.

The Ols · Apr 6, 2019

That's the NFL rule, did the XFL say that they were using the same guidelines? I honestly don't know the answer.

81usaf92 said:
From what I gather the rule is that you have to 1) possess a high school diploma and 2) be out for 3 years. But Vince wants to be in the good graces of the NFLPA before he implements this idea.

But if he does it then you can expect College football to change dramatically.

81usaf92 · Apr 6, 2019

The Ols said:
That's the NFL rule, did the XFL say that they were using the same guidelines? I honestly don't know the answer.

The XFL is trying to be the 3 year gap from HS to the NFL. I do remember the League that tried to fill in for the NFL during the lockout floated the same idea around but had an adverse reaction from the NFLPA about it.

bamaslammer · Apr 7, 2019

Ross is a good receiver, I wish we had signed him, but he's not AS good as we made him look. The Nick Saban defense works when you got experience in the back end, when it doesn't people are open everywhere.

MattinBama · Apr 8, 2019

81usaf92 said:
Vince isn’t a soulless snake like Dundon.

You should look up the Last Week Tonight segment about Vince and the WWE. He has long been known as basically a soulless snake.

News Article: SIAP: Clemson WR Justyn Ross Thinks Some NCAA Players Will Leave to Play in XFL

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